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Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by cyral »

202206241203 wrote: post #75
mike wrote: post #43

Nicely communicated. Everything that JetBrains does around their pricing and subscription model always feels really fair and classy to me. (perpetual fallback licensing, continuity discounts). In this case, being completely upfront in the post title that this is a price increase, no "Updated pricing" or "Revised pricing" etc. Reasonable notice period with an option to renew for multiple years at the current pricing b…

> During this time, we have introduced new products that have been included at no extra cost to everyone using the latter. It's like a landlord doing unrequested renovation and then sending a bill.

You can continue using the old version without paying if you don’t renew, so it’s not really comparable at all.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by mmastrac »

lolinder wrote: post #93
mmastrac wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's Eclipse too. It was almost always the better IDE for pure Java development. IntelliJ was always heavier and buggier whenever I tried using it.

Maybe it's improved in the past 3ish years, but the last time I had to use Eclipse for a project I couldn't stand it. It may have been lighter weight, but it was buggy and had many fewer helpful features (refactorings, inline hints, navigation). I couldn't wait to get back to intellij.

I don't think IntelliJ has added support for running non-compiling Java code yet, which was a major productivity booster for me.

Eclipse's ability to debug and run a single failing unit test were massive as well. IntelliJ was always hit or miss as to whether it would allow you to run a subset.

IntelliJ refactorings also were a lot less smart IMO - often trying to refactor unrelated comments and sometimes code that was unrelated but happened to be named the same thing.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by cyral »

202206241203 wrote: post #65

Big problem for me is that they are using proceeds from well-selling products like ReSharper to fund their strategic but under-performing products like Rider, all while neglecting the former. Over last few years there were no big features added in ReSharper whatsoever and it became slower.

I use Rider ever day instead of Visual Studio and it certainly isn’t under performing

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by chrisan »

mmastrac wrote: post #78
valcron1000 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no comparison between using VSCode and IntelliJ for Java development

There's Eclipse too. It was almost always the better IDE for pure Java development. IntelliJ was always heavier and buggier whenever I tried using it.

Heavier and buggier than Eclipse?? I've had the opposite experience.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by 0des »

oxfordmale wrote: post #16

Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs. I get red mist in front of my eyes whenever I see a DataGrip icon as it tends to consume all your CPU and memory for complex databases regardless of your machine spec. These days I am mostly using VsCode for development and TablePlus/Postico for database development.

I thought I was the only one. For me it was GoLand, not to mention the constant feeling that im being watched. VSCode without telemetry is what I moved to.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by topka »

mrunkel wrote: post #82
Aeolun wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, if a huge number of people renew at the current rate for 3 years that’s a nice war-chest for Jetbrains in the coming years.

I just logged into my account, I can't see a way to renew for three years. The only option I have is to switch from annual to monthly billing.

This is strange. Try to go to check out and you should see "Purchase period" there. If not, please contact sales@jetbrains.com. Thanks!

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by billfruit »

323 wrote: post #33
pyprism wrote: post #15

With 10 USD, I can buy 1 weeks worth of food in my country. I wish SASS, software providers like Jetbrains adjusts their price based on country per capita.

Is your developer salary also adjusted based on country per capita? Or are you getting a mostly Western salary?

Steam does it very well for games, pricing games differentially such that they are much cheaper in 3rd world countries. JetBrains could do something similar too.

Developer wages too vary from country to country.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by ymolodtsov »

gghhzzgghhzz wrote: post #45
phpisthebest wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well when 80% of all US Dollars were "printed" / created in the last 2-3 years massive inflation will follow What we are seeing is the predictable result of the classic monetary models, and a rejection of Modern Monetary Theory which linked limits of government spending to the availability of real resources, like workers. Which is why you see people like The Treasury Sec saying the Economy is good because of employme…

Prices are not rising because people have too much money and are over purchasing food and energy just to show off to their neighbours. If that were the case then there are things that would work. Increase taxes on income, unearned income, wealth and excess profits to take money out of the economy (MMT theory would support this if the issue was genuinely too much money) Introduce price controls and rationing on food a…

> Introduce price controls and rationing on food and basic services including energy and housing to stop profiteering.

Here are 100 roubles for you, comrade.

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