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Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do if you contribute to an open source project. There's also Pycharm Community edition which is available through the package manager of most Linux distros. https://www.jetbrains.com/community/opensource/#support

JetBrains offers free versions of several of their IDEs (e.g. IntelliJ IDEA Community), but nothing for .NET

I guess that's a good incentive to get people to switch to Kotlin and the JVM :P

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#52
post #43

Nicely communicated. Everything that JetBrains does around their pricing and subscription model always feels really fair and classy to me. (perpetual fallback licensing, continuity discounts). In this case, being completely upfront in the post title that this is a price increase, no "Updated pricing" or "Revised pricing" etc. Reasonable notice period with an option to renew for multiple years at the current pricing b…

This, so much! I wish more companies/products would do it like this (sure, we can debate the actual prices, etc.)

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#53
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO enforced price controls leads to shortages (and I experienced them first hand, I was born in Argentina) Also using an example from 70 years ago doesn’t seem enough to justify it.

A cynical person could say that today is the perfect time for enforced prices because there alreay is a shortage of everything.

Yes and, after all, what problem can't be solved by making it worse?

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#54
post #10

What the hell is up with prices? Everything I pay in dollars became 20% more expensive. My cereal became 20% more expensive. Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive. This is the first time in my life (34 yo) that price changes have been so large that they’re apparent to me. And even with a dev salary the combined amount is high enough that it has an impact on my behavior.

> My cereal became 20% more expensive. > Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive. I understand the frustration but surely you can see the causality link here? Jetbrains employees have to eat too. The individual solution is sadly for you to ask for a 20% raise and screw people down the line. Global solution would be enforced price controls, we know it works because France did it after the war, the government imposed lowe…

> I understand the frustration but surely you can see the causality link here? Jetbrains employees have to eat too.

Haha, no, I didn’t, but now that you point it out it seems obvious ;)

That said, I somehow doubt Jetbrains employees will see these raised prices reflected in their salaries.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#55
post #10

What the hell is up with prices? Everything I pay in dollars became 20% more expensive. My cereal became 20% more expensive. Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive. This is the first time in my life (34 yo) that price changes have been so large that they’re apparent to me. And even with a dev salary the combined amount is high enough that it has an impact on my behavior.

Well when 80% of all US Dollars were "printed" / created in the last 2-3 years massive inflation will follow What we are seeing is the predictable result of the classic monetary models, and a rejection of Modern Monetary Theory which linked limits of government spending to the availability of real resources, like workers. Which is why you see people like The Treasury Sec saying the Economy is good because of employme…

I guess? But if there are 5 times more dollars to buy why do they become more expensive (for me, outside the US)? That doesn’t seem intuitively correct to me.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#56
post #10

What the hell is up with prices? Everything I pay in dollars became 20% more expensive. My cereal became 20% more expensive. Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive. This is the first time in my life (34 yo) that price changes have been so large that they’re apparent to me. And even with a dev salary the combined amount is high enough that it has an impact on my behavior.

>This is the first time in my life (34 yo) that price changes have been so large that they’re apparent to me.

We lived through a unique time in history, and that unique time has lasted for our entire adult lives. I’m also 34. I graduated college right when the low interest rates were juicing the economy. But the party had to come to an end sometime.

Ask your parents what it was like in the 1970s. Oil shocks, interest rates at 15%. History rhymes.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#57

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I'd rather train a butterfly to do the job

I coax my garden into growing such a way as to condition the butterflies to do the needful. Only amateurs get caught up actually programming bugs themselves.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#58
post #10

What the hell is up with prices? Everything I pay in dollars became 20% more expensive. My cereal became 20% more expensive. Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive. This is the first time in my life (34 yo) that price changes have been so large that they’re apparent to me. And even with a dev salary the combined amount is high enough that it has an impact on my behavior.

Well when 80% of all US Dollars were "printed" / created in the last 2-3 years massive inflation will follow What we are seeing is the predictable result of the classic monetary models, and a rejection of Modern Monetary Theory which linked limits of government spending to the availability of real resources, like workers. Which is why you see people like The Treasury Sec saying the Economy is good because of employme…

>Well when 80% of all US Dollars were "printed" / created in the last 2-3 years massive inflation will follow

Be careful. This theory tracks for regular currencies, but gets distorted (note: I didn’t not say that it doesn’t apply, only that it isn’t as strong as you say) when the currency in question is the reserve currency for the world.

Classic Model didn’t predict this, because “this” is a totally bonkers scenario. Inflation is running hot (additionally) because supply chains have been torched (China and Russia) just at the time when demand came roaring back (the world minus China gave up on lockdowns).

You’re not wrong, but I encourage you to resist the temptation to simplify the story down to “classic” vs “MMT.” It’s tempting, but the world is very very complex and it ain’t getting any simpler.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#59
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO enforced price controls leads to shortages (and I experienced them first hand, I was born in Argentina) Also using an example from 70 years ago doesn’t seem enough to justify it.

A cynical person could say that today is the perfect time for enforced prices because there alreay is a shortage of everything.

That cynic would then be rewarded with even fewer of the things that they wish to purchase.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#60
The heavier IDEs are in real trouble given the impressive state of VS Code lately. I haven't found the need to reach for a bigger IDE than Code in a while and I've been perfectly productive in JS, C, Rust and Python projects lately.

Do yourself a favour and try out Code for your next project.

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