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Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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In Europe they consider North, Central, and South America to all be one continent called, "America."

Can't say for everyone else, but here there are America and South America. Therm term North America is a pretty much used only in geo and historic contexts, almost never in a political one.

Ahh I didn't know that. I remember being there in high school and our tour guide laughing when we said there were 7 continents. Here it's always "N.A."

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Now that the Americans did it the Canadians won't want to.

Can we not treat Hacker News like some Reddit thread, making low effort political jokes in an attempt to curry upvotes? If that's not what you were doing, and instead were being serious, then do note that Canadians ape American culture more heavily than any other nation I can think of, so this characterization is not correct.

> an attempt to curry upvotes

Offtopic, but sometimes a witty (at best), or just butty (at worst), joke is made only for it's own sake, sometimes it's for other's amusement and sometimes it's for upvotes as well.

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>If they know they are going to take a hit? Oh now its 'regular people' in the comments going to bat for a company everyone hates these days. >I have to say the worst by far is Amazon. Every post about them has this shit happen. >Obvious shills in the comments, flamebait and wars. When they can't get them to flag and get a post off the front page they do their best to muddy the waters. https://news.ycombinator.com/ne…

Fair enough, but why is it that on every post critical of Amazon there's a bunch of freshly-made accounts just for the purpose of spreading fud?

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I wouldn't call OPEC a union, but I would call it a cartel, just like labor unions are.

missedthecue 4 hours ago > OPEC is also a union missedthecue 1 hour ago > I wouldn't call OPEC a union You might want to re-examine your cybersecurity measures - someone hacked your account.

Yes, I put it in those terms to help remove the blinders some people have on. In a strict sense, I guess you could that OPEC does meet the definition of a union, in the sense that it is a group of entities coordinating together. Just like the EU, a marriage, the commonwealth, or the USA.

We're really just splitting hairs at this point. My main point is that the motives and tactics of both OPEC and the UAW are identical.

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And that is basically all AWS. Retail has actually lost money in the past 3 quarters.

If they cannot afford a good salary, then the business is a liability

This is a fun soundbite, but it's completely arbitrary and meaningless. You could just as easily and accurately come up with something along the lines of "if a union causes its employer financial distress, it is a liability".

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https://qubit-labs.com/average-software-developer-salaries-s...

That's just a list of average salary by country. Does it show which of these are "UNIONIZED European programmers" and how many are "NON-UNION Americans?" If not, we can dismiss the claim outright.

>If not, we can dismiss the claim outright

All you can say at that point is "I'm too lazy to confirm or disprove it". If you want to disprove his statement for real, you're going to have to put in some effort looking things up.

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They don't, partially because "that name" is already taken by the so-called America. Arguably their name translates as "United Mexican States" whereas the USA has "of America" in it, nobody calls it the "United American States". My petition to rename the USA to solve this by labeling everything MURICA has stalled in committee it seems.

I wonder if there are any other United Kingdoms out there besides Britain.

Apparently not https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/official-... - the UK name is a particular oddity based on how it came about (most other "united kingdoms" have probably become republics or absorbed the smaller kingdom).

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I know a number of mexican people who hate that dubious automatic America / USA association.

How about when Iran chants “Death to America”? Do they feel the same way?

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Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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You can be anti-union, that's fine. It's even legit to be pro-union but to say that for you personally, you're such an amazing performer that employers are fighting over you and so maybe the union is good for most but not you personally. For example, maybe NBA players would make much less without the union but LeBron personally would make more. Maybe you're the LeBron of developers! (There's no debate on whether barg…

>There's no debate on whether bargaining collectively leads to greater leverage in negotiation overall. It clearly does Totally! That's why I want to be pro-union. I don't know much about NBA, but I don't think I'm a top 10th percentile developer. It just sometimes seems like all the unions fight for is the bottom 10th percentile.

I'd love to see a study on this topic. My priors lead me to believe gains are far more distributed and far more come out ahead, but I haven't actually researched the degree.

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That's just a list of average salary by country. Does it show which of these are "UNIONIZED European programmers" and how many are "NON-UNION Americans?" If not, we can dismiss the claim outright.

>If not, we can dismiss the claim outright All you can say at that point is "I'm too lazy to confirm or disprove it". If you want to disprove his statement for real, you're going to have to put in some effort looking things up.

Nothing has been proved, it would be impossible to disprove. Stated without evidence, dismissed without it.
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