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Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Can you explain why you skipped over these? > management has worked to isolate pro-union workers and threatened to relocate the warehouses if unionization succeeds. > One worker said his life has become miserable since he uttered the word “union” at work. “Every coworker who talks to me, after a few seconds, they are interrogated by the manager. When they do that, people don’t want to talk to you anymore. I’m being i…

Because it's vague and hearsay. The most frustrating thing about these debates is that the pro-union side are so hostile to anyone who questions anything, as though they assume that anyone who doubts the union must be a business owner. I'm a worker, I would like to be part of a union that worked. But I don't see unions that work, I just see unreasonable and propaganda-like articles like these. When there is a dispute…

I don't know if you've looked around the thread much, but there's just as many anti-union posts decrying it as communism, leftist propaganda and more. The idea that it's just the 'pro-union' side being hostile is a lie.

And more importantly you should consider who is pro-union vs anti-union. Considering you're posting in a thread about Amazon wielding its power to intimidate workers. To me, it doesn't seem like you're looking at this dispassionately: It seems like you've already staked out your territory and decided anything beyond that is wrong.

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Amazon net income is less than $30B. They also do not pay dividends.

And that is basically all AWS. Retail has actually lost money in the past 3 quarters.

If they cannot afford a good salary, then the business is a liability

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Note: this website often contains highly unreliable material and often publishes articles defending such things as the Berlin Wall.

Yes, imagine a website publishing opinion pieces with diverse viewpoints, some of which you find repulsive... I fail to see how that is relevant for this particular article.

I just put a note. It's good to know what you're clicking on when you might not have heard of the website before. It provides something called "context".

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Isn't that exactly why the analogy works? "British" means someone from the UK or an overseas territory/dependency. Therefore the Irish are not British and are rightfully miffed when called as such. Even though Ireland is in the (poorly named) British Isles. "American" means a citizen or national of the USA. Therefore Canadians are not American and are rightfully miffed when called as such. Even though Canada is in (s…

When I lived in South America many people took exception to referring to US citizens as 'Americans'. For most of SA, 'American' can refer to something of the American continents. Even more interesting, the middle school geography that I took taught that there was only one American continent. So by that standard Canadians are 'American'. But yeah, as someone who now lives in Canada: don't ever think that Canada is the…

The difference in defining continents is where the confusion mainly arises. Canadians are "North Americans," unless you are in Europe, then they are just "Americans." So what are people who live in the USA? United Statesians? Americans-not-from-Canada-Mexico-or-anywhere-south-of-that?

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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That's the point I'm making.

Sorry, maybe I'm misunderstanding. My point was that some Irishmen have an active, deep-seated animosity towards the U.K. because of a dispute about national sovereignty / independence. I saw that as different from the U.S. - Canadian issue, because I'm not aware of most(?) Canadians holding similar antipathy towards the U.S. It sounds like I'm clueless about some dynamic here. Would you mind elaborating?

There is in fact a lot of antipathy about Canadians being "indistinguishable" from our boorish southern neighbours

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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That Canada is also located in America, and if someone from Canada identifies "America" with the US they are belittling their own country? I mean, the sentence wouldn't have been less understandable if they had used "US-style" instead of "American-style"?

Everyone uses the term "America" to the US and even if they are referring to the both continents they say "The Americas". There isn't even a contient named "America"

In Europe they consider North, Central, and South America to all be one continent called, "America."

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Sorry, maybe I'm misunderstanding. My point was that some Irishmen have an active, deep-seated animosity towards the U.K. because of a dispute about national sovereignty / independence. I saw that as different from the U.S. - Canadian issue, because I'm not aware of most(?) Canadians holding similar antipathy towards the U.S. It sounds like I'm clueless about some dynamic here. Would you mind elaborating?

There is in fact a lot of antipathy about Canadians being "indistinguishable" from our boorish southern neighbours

Indistinguishable, my shiny metal a**. Your general politeness is a dead giveaway.

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Everyone uses the term "America" to the US and even if they are referring to the both continents they say "The Americas". There isn't even a contient named "America"

In Europe they consider North, Central, and South America to all be one continent called, "America."

Can't say for everyone else, but here there are America and South America. Therm term North America is a pretty much used only in geo and historic contexts, almost never in a political one.

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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There is in fact a lot of antipathy about Canadians being "indistinguishable" from our boorish southern neighbours

Indistinguishable, my shiny metal a**. Your general politeness is a dead giveaway.

Thank you so very much, I really appreciate that! Have a good one!!!

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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I get all that. I also understand that unions function as a labor monopoly. What I don't get is not simply referring to unions as unions and monopolies as monopolies as is the common practice. Correct me, if I'm understanding but your point seems to be this Unions are a monopoly so it makes sense to call OPEC a union. Let me refer us both back to intro to programming and frame this in OOP terms. Just because a Cat ha…

I wouldn't call OPEC a union, but I would call it a cartel, just like labor unions are.

missedthecue 4 hours ago

> OPEC is also a union

missedthecue 1 hour ago

> I wouldn't call OPEC a union

You might want to re-examine your cybersecurity measures - someone hacked your account.

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