The unspoken truth here... The USDA doesn't represent the consumer. The USDA represents the agriculture industry. Source: I worked on contract there for a couple of years.
Is it unspoken? It's literally in the name.
USDA ignoring the science on low-carb diets
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I was having the same (different age range, early 30's) symptoms, and I was able to eliminate my problems by cutting out coffee entirely. I can still drink caffeinated tea without issue. When I first quit coffee, I cut out all spicy foods and beans. Now I eat spicy foods and beans occasionally without issue. Naturally, the doctor that did my colonoscopy didn't recommend trying any of this, just wanted to slap me on s…
Can you drink decaf coffee or is it something else in the coffee?
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You also have to factor in protein quality as well as quantity. Protein in animal products is generally higher quality because it has the right proportions of amino acids and is easier to digest.
Those claims seem questionable. Even if true, is having the "right proportions of amino acids" at all desirable? Human digestive systems are pretty good at extracting what they want from our diet; we don't need to measure out precise proportions. What evidence have you got that animal products are "easier to digest"?
Vegetables have anti nutrients, a class of chemicals designed to make them less edible. It’s one of the main reasons you can’t eat the vegetation around you.
Things like gluten are perfect examples of anti nutrients.
Meat on the other hand has no anti nutrients.
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#244Even without the science... for me personally at 47 and a life long sugar addict (used to eat tablespoons of white sugar from pantry), a low carb (keto) diet has been a complete game changer. I kept my weight in check by doing 6 days of exercise a week, but I was on an energetic roller coaster. 3 months in, no sugar, no cravings (I crave oils sometimes) and damn I just feel well in a way I haven't for long before I c…
I did keto for a year and the sugar cravings never stopped. :-\
I let myself have a donut 3 months in, and everyone on keto always tells me that after a few months, if you eat something sweet, you'll find it disgustingly sweet. Nope. As I ate that apple fritter, I was like "Oh my god this is so delicious, I've missed sugar so bad"
In about 9 months, I had gone from 260 lbs to 205 lbs, but then COVID hit, I fell off the bandwagon, stopped going to the gym (I went to the one at the office), and very slowly rose back to the 250 lbs I am today. :-(
I still generally avoid high-carb foods like pasta and bread, rarely eat sweets, and will use low-carb alternatives when possible, but I'm certainly not keto anymore.
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I’ve noticed that sometimes a snack food will have 3 different kinds of sugar as the 2-4th ingredients. I’ve wondered if they break it up like that so that the first ingredient isn’t sugar, even if there is more sugar-type-ingredients than there is of the first-listed ingredient. It’s possible they use multiple types for flavor/texture reasons, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some foods where it could be ac…
Yeah, I saw some soy milk at Whole Foods marked “no added sugar”. I was surprised that sugar might be added at all but I don’t drink the stuff. Anyway, I looked at the label and the #2 ingredient (after water) was “dehydrated cane juice” (i.e. sugar).
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The authors of that meta-analysis adjusted for serum cholesterol, which defeats the entire point. Saturated fat intake above a certain threshold is associated with CVD because it causes an uptake in serum cholesterol, eventually leading to atherosclerosis. Saying saturated fat intake doesn't correlate with CVD when ignoring serum cholesterol is entirely uninteresting, and not what anyone's claiming. See also this[0]…
Meta-analyses are not a panacea, that's clear. As I suspect you know well, two further meta-analysis came to the same conclusion: Chowdhury 2014 [0], De Souza 2015 [1]. More recently, Kang in 2018 [2] and Zhu in 2019 are also stating that they fail to find evidence of a clear association between SFA consumption and risk of CVD. Obviously, as science is what it is (and that's a good thing), those study are debatable a…
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>In the western world the default is a high-carb diet. It's like this everywhere in the world. You know rice is mostly carbs, right?
Ghana and many many other African countries are 80% carbs or more. The whole Western carb angle is just a cope for eating too damn much calories.
I've seen people here say "you can't outrun your fork" as though one of the greatest impacts of exercise (appetite suppression and hormonal renormalization) doesn't happen.
Also, the people trying so hard to disprove calories-in-calories-out here are even funnier. I can tell that the average HN user is overweight just from these comments.
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You're missing a very key point of this work: > Carbohydrate restriction is currently the only whole-foods approach that can reverse a diagnosis of type 2 diabetes. Carbohydrates break down to glucose in the bloodstream, the same as pure sugar. For a large and growing number of people, low-carb diets are not simply a means of weight loss.
Right. Virta Health has shown success in reversing type-2 diabetes with nutritional ketosis. https://www.virtahealth.com/research
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#250If you want to convince regulators, perhaps you should first try to convince serious nutritionists. Because very few of them really buy this keto narrative.
And yet there are thousands of people who posted their successful weight loss or bloating and autoimmune issues online which were solved by keto or carnivore. The term "modern serious nutritionist" is a joke anyway: a true nutritionist is one who heals himself with a diet, and many people on keto do. Science advances one funeral at the time. Remember: ~150 years ago people were making fun of the guy and outsted him b…
I am surprised you think that means anything.
For folks who are not too invested in keto religion, I will leave here the US News Best Diet's ranking, in which they ask a panel of nutrition specialists to rate each diet [0]. This is the closer you can get to what the specialist consensus is. Which haven't changed much, regardeless of fad diet's folks have been telling you.