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USDA ignoring the science on low-carb diets

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Re: USDA ignoring the science on low-carb diets

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A few years ago I was quite overweight. I switched to a keto diet and dropped a quarter of my weight in a year to enter a healthy weight range. I remained on a keto diet for two years and can share my personal experience.

I found long-distance running and cycling rather easy but sprinting and weightlifting caused me to nearly faint. Eventually I had to stop a low-carb diet because it was interfering with my exercise. During this period I also began taking ADHD medication again because I really couldn't focus and complete tasks.

What I think helped with my drastic weight loss was that I had a greater focus on the food and number of calories I was putting into my body. I also partook in intermittent fasting, which prevented me from snacking during periods when I clearly was not hungry. Further, I focused on eating satiating foods, which informed my body that it was full at a much quicker rate. Finally, I fully cut out processed foods and limited my alcohol consumption to moderately on the weekends.

I am skeptical of the low-carb diet itself being the trigger that caused weight-loss. I believe it indirectly taught me good dieting habits because I grew up without those being taught in my household. Ultimately, I came to the conclusion that a keto diet was not sustainable long-term.

After some time, I stopped eating low-carb. As a response to the pandemic, I switched to a pescetarian diet and quickly switched to a vegetarian diet as I don't care for the taste of fish. After a year, I switched to an entirely plant-based diet, which I still follow.

My doctor's visits during this process show incredibly improved blood work. I am as healthy as can be. I am able to exercise with tennis, weightlifting, and cycling without feeling like I am going to faint. I stopped taking my ADHD medication awhile back and haven't felt the need to take it at all; sometimes I exhibit classic symptoms of ADHD that leave my family scratching their heads since I still do have ADHD, but it has not interfered with getting my work done like it used to. My symptoms have been largely reduced for the first time in my life.

Perhaps supplementing B12 while eating plant-based helped. All I can say is I have never felt better in my life. My ADHD is severely less pervasive, and my sleep paralysis has vanished. My level of energy is incredible and has made me a better athlete that can execute bursts of speed impossible a few years ago.

I think switching to eating whole foods, getting more nutrients such as fiber in my diet, and eating more fruits and vegetables has led to a healthier life. I never made extraordinary changes overnight. I slowly transitioned from one diet to the next and ultimately arrived at plant-based after discovering how great I felt and seeing how strong my blood work was. If I could go back and tell myself something, it would be: don't skip the fruit. Carbs are fine. Focus on whole foods with nutrients you need. Eating food is an activity to fuel other activities. Not something you do purely for fun. The key to losing weight and remaining healthy is diligence. Being consistent in rejecting your family member that keeps pushing dessert on you is necessary. You have to accept that you learned to eat food incorrectly, but you can correct your bad habits. It is never too late.

There may be some merit to low-carb diets, but I found I had less than stellar blood work and a scattered mind. I was also consuming meat and dairy at this time, so I never dabbled in a low-carb plant-based diet. That sounds pretty tough though. Adding carbs back into my diet resulted in stronger blood-work and better mental and physical energy.

If anyone is interested in how I initially made the transition to plant-based, I found myself interested in the Mediterranean diet and somehow discovered the Greek Orthodox Lenten fasting schedule (nistisima). I decided to follow it for a few months and other than keeping oil and not eating fish, I continued to follow it full-time. I primarily eat Asian food at home, but I eat a lot of Greek food too.

Re: USDA ignoring the science on low-carb diets

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Not anything, you could run a five hundred calorie deficit and only eat table sugar. You’d lose weight and gain serious metabolic disease. This is an extreme, but obviously there’s better and worse things. Maybe it’s pretty comparable in the reasonable middle, but let’s not kid ourselves and say anything can work if we are talking whole body health not just weight loss.

Dr. Kempner would disagree with that conclusion if he were alive: https://www.drmcdougall.com/newsletters/walter-kempner-md-fo...

So what? So does my diabetic aunt who has had half her intestines removed because she can’t respect her dietary needs. Doesn’t make it true.

Re: USDA ignoring the science on low-carb diets

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"meet" isn't environmentally unfriendly some methods of meat production are but you can focus on environmentally friendly methods instead don't hate the product, hate the process

Totally agree, this is a misconception. If you look at the numbers you get different results based on how you calculate it. Meat also comes out a lot better if you compare protein instead of calories. Greenhouse gas emissions per 100g protein https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-per-protein-poore?tab... Dark Chocolate 93.30 kg Beef (beef herd) 49.89 kg Coffee 35.66 kg Lamb & Mutton 19.85 kg Tomatoes 19.00 kg Oatmea…

You also have to factor in protein quality as well as quantity. Protein in animal products is generally higher quality because it has the right proportions of amino acids and is easier to digest.

Re: USDA ignoring the science on low-carb diets

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How does keto work for you doing exercise? Do you have a routine or adaptation that works for you? I ask because I’ve tried keto a couple of times and usually gave up within a few weeks because it was incompatible with (energetic) cycling. The difference with huge - I was crawling up hills that usually I’d barely notice. I assume it’s because I’m very carb-adapted and/or my level of exercise intensity is too high for…

I’ve done marathon training while on keto. Obviously a much different power output need to cycling so take this with a grain of salt… it took me about a month to adjust. That first month had me really struggling to even do 50% of the training distance I was used to. And then it all just clicked suddenly. Not like I started improving again, literally went from struggling to straight back to race performance. One day I…

As someone who both runs and bikes, I don't think Marathon vs Cycling is that different. You just need to compare similar efforts, are you pushing a marathon to hit 2:30 or whatever? Then compare to biking a shorter crit. Or if you are doing a 5:00 marathon, compare to a century.

Re: USDA ignoring the science on low-carb diets

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Any health-related downsides?

If the diet is high in (processed) red meat: higher cancer risk. If the diet is (too) high in saturated fat, increased cardio vascular risk.

> If the diet is (too) high in saturated fat, increased cardio vascular risk.

You may want to take a look at this meta-study [0].

> “A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD.”

[0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20071648/

Re: USDA ignoring the science on low-carb diets

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A reminder to those who demonize carbs: as Stephan Guyenet points out, restricting your consumption of any category of food--whether you're avoiding carbs, or fat, or meat, or plants--will reliably cause weight loss by removing some highly rewarding/palatable foods from your diet. So we shouldn't be surprised that both low-carb and vegetarian diets can produce weight loss, and that many people have had success with e…

You're missing a very key point of this work: > Carbohydrate restriction is currently the only whole-foods approach that can reverse a diagnosis of type 2 diabetes. Carbohydrates break down to glucose in the bloodstream, the same as pure sugar. For a large and growing number of people, low-carb diets are not simply a means of weight loss.

Right. Virta Health has shown success in reversing type-2 diabetes with nutritional ketosis.

https://www.virtahealth.com/research

Re: USDA ignoring the science on low-carb diets

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If you haven't tried a low-carb diet, you should and see how it works for you. I never felt better than I did when I was eating pretty much just Chipotle salads (chicken+salad+guac) and doing a bit of weightlifting three times a week ( https://stronglifts.com/5x5 ). Of course, I was in my mid-20s and had three fewer kids, so there's that... I'll add--free office snacks are the devil's work.

I tried it not long ago with kids in the house. It was extremely onerous to prepare different meals and despite being very rigorous in my induction phase, I lost no weight and felt constantly nauseous. I found it extremely difficult to get enough calories because I just couldn't stomach all that protein.

Re: USDA ignoring the science on low-carb diets

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That’s not what was meant and you know it. You’re being intellectually dishonest.

And the person saying "chemical" is being intellectually lazy.

What word would you suggest to use, then?

Discussing individual chemicals by name is inefficient, confusing and almost certainly requires scientific citations to be remotely worthy of discussion.

Going by groups of chemicals is a bit better, but then citations are largely not applicable.

There are no synonyms or near synonyms. The dictionary definition of ”chemical” (noun), however, is explicitly clear:

1 : a substance obtained by a chemical process or producing a chemical effect

2 : a drug

I posit that the person saying ”chemical” is not being lazy, they are being scientifically accurate while enabling rational discussion.

It’s anyone saying ”but EVERYTHING is chemicals” that needs to check the dictionary.

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