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I'd stay away from the latter two, like not even read it. I made a terrible life changing mistake by reading too much of these subreddits. It's user generated content, mostly by people who hate their lives, hate society and hate others, aided by the traditional media they link to. By the time I saw that reality is different and so much better than the doom I got on Reddit, it was too late.
> I made a terrible life changing mistake by reading too much of these subreddits. I don't understand. How could you make a life-changing mistake by reading the news?
The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos
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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos
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They have only banned extreme political ideologies with vaguely violent leanings, and have done so for both sides of the spectrum
The problem with Reddit is that they banned unilaterally the right wing.
Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos
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Give an example - you can do that here.
How about the sticky on the /r/atheism Roe thread?[1] The moderation team states that "there is no non-bigoted way of advocating" against abortion, that any argument you have "has already been addressed and thoroughly refuted", and that speaking up "will result in an immediate, permanent ban." The mods are absolutely opposed to freedom of expression. Nobody was shutting down discourse like this when I was growing up.…
I wouldn't see a problem with all of that if people knew their comments were being removed. But, Reddit hides that from users, even going as far as showing you your removed comments while logged in as if they're not removed.
[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/vjpeia/roe_v_...
Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos
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I've been on Reddit since 2008 myself and was an avid user of forums etc for years before that. When I started on Reddit there was already an element of things having changed, a move away from niche technology discussion towards lowest common denominator stuff and discussion by meme. In general this was fine as you could just move to smaller subreddits, and the bigger pages had fun cultures that permeated the others…
> The difficult change I've seen in the past few years is the rising number of hate and harassment subs, and Reddit tolerating them. If you scroll through the top of /r/BanFemaleHateSubs or /r/AgainstDegenerateSubs you'll see how bad things have become and how unsafe the general environment is. The r/BanThisandThat subreddits are little more than morality police. Many of those posts will take statements out of contex…
Call it morality police if you want but it's targeted sexual violence against minors and women who don't consent. I guess your morality and mine don't align. If I'm in the "morality minority" on this one then that's very sad and I would encourage yourself and other members of "morality majority" to reflect on how women are treated in your society.
Out of interest, would you mind sharing your Facebook or Instagram profile here, so that someone could share you pictures on a subreddit for rape and murder fantasy about you, linking back to the account? It's only fantasy right, would be a shame of the morality police ruined the fun.
Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos
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Honestly, I'm not sure if anyone is really interested in advice from someone who somehow managed to get permabanned on reddit.
Maybe one day when a bank permabans you after you've put years of money into it, and then they just reclaim all of your credits, and the reason they give you is only that "you promoted your business in a sub and that's not allowed on this tiny part of reddit" and that is against "Rule #12" on a random subreddit that didn't even publish the rule... You probably still won't understand the ideal of how people regularly…
I’ve been using Reddit since 2010 without issues, behaving poorly enough to get permabanned (which is different than being banned from a subreddit) is serious. There’s a story being left out here.
Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about the sticky on the /r/atheism Roe thread?[1] The moderation team states that "there is no non-bigoted way of advocating" against abortion, that any argument you have "has already been addressed and thoroughly refuted", and that speaking up "will result in an immediate, permanent ban." The mods are absolutely opposed to freedom of expression. Nobody was shutting down discourse like this when I was growing up.…
The Internet has always been full of private fora where people limit the range of discussion. There are plenty of subreddits where you can express your views, should they happen to fall on the opposing side of the issue. The freedom to have discussions on topics you want in restricted spaces is not censorship, folks. And it’s (unfortunately) a thing that happens when your space is open to the entire global Internet.
You have to stop looking at it from the ridiculous and childish private\public perspective and start looking at it in terms of right to exit and availability of alternatives. If a small, 1000 km^2, irrelevant country bans something, that's not a big problem because the residents can easily move out or otherwise subvert the ban. If a giant corporation with monopolistic control of its niche bans a thing and treats certain users unfairly, that's a much more serious violation of free speech. It's all about how easily you can get alternatives, once you reach a certain usage/alternatives ratio, you don't have the right to be "Private", you must be forced to be fair.
The public\private thing is a sort of "Stories for Children" heuristic that used to approximate the truer underlying dynamics somewhat decently, before bad faith authoritarian fan boys milked it into oblivion with cliché "Just build your own X bro" mindless slogans. The original idea being that 'public' things are usually things like states, courts, police forces and other societal structures that are usually very difficult to exit or be free of. While 'private' things are (the cliché example goes) things like gas stations or coffee shops, things you can easily exit and replace. The heuristic obviously breaks down whenever the private entity in question is $GIANT inc.
Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos
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If you use iPhone, then use Apollo. If you use Android, then Sync. The official apps have always been dire.
Note that the API doesn't provide third party clients with access to newer features like polls, chat or the new inbuilt subreddit reaction emoji. So I think that's a precursor to reddit limiting then further in the medium term
Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos
#288As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…
The comments were often equally low effort with memes and weak jokes rising to the top. This was especially infuriating in places like /r/askreddit where the only chance of seeing replies that weren't clear fabrications or jokes was to specifically ask for serious replies.
There were really only 2 ways for a subreddit to be good. It either had to be small and relatively close-knit or it had to have rules against low effort content and solid moderation enforcing those rules. But since communities will naturally grow as people find them and because people hate when moderators remove their posts, Reddit ended up exactly where it was destined to.
Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos
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You are automatically banned from some subs if you comment/post in other blacklisted, "rival" communities. Let this sink in.
I was banned in a very popular sub (crazyfuckingvideos) with a million subscribers because I also subscribed to banpitbulls. You can’t post any pro Israel news on /r/politics. Their definitely needs to be stronger guidelines in place for mods, especially as they become sizable.
Seems sensible to me when anti-Israel news is pretty much banned everywhere else.
Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos
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I've been on Reddit since 2008 myself and was an avid user of forums etc for years before that. When I started on Reddit there was already an element of things having changed, a move away from niche technology discussion towards lowest common denominator stuff and discussion by meme. In general this was fine as you could just move to smaller subreddits, and the bigger pages had fun cultures that permeated the others…
> The difficult change I've seen in the past few years is the rising number of hate and harassment subs, and Reddit tolerating them. If you scroll through the top of /r/BanFemaleHateSubs or /r/AgainstDegenerateSubs you'll see how bad things have become and how unsafe the general environment is. The r/BanThisandThat subreddits are little more than morality police. Many of those posts will take statements out of contex…
Like how r/tumblrinaction got banned recently, the members of the sub didn't report themselves for racism and transphobia.