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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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The problem with Reddit is that they banned unilaterally the right wing.

That is not true e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/chapotraphouse

Try searching for claims the election was fraudulent “in 2020” compared to “in 2016”.

One is banned, the other promoted. Not just on Reddit but on many social media.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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post #90

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The problem with Reddit is that they banned unilaterally the right wing.

Because the right wing were organising insurrections?

Do people really unironically believe that?

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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I have a different take: The main problem with reddit is in how badly it's bungled its several different redesigns over the last few years, and how it's slowly ruined its users' experience in misguided attempts to drive mobile traffic to its app. Right now, here's the process for browsing a subreddit on mobile without the (ads and tracking loaded) reddit app: 1. Navigate to subreddit. Find out which of two (non-NSFW)…

Just use Infinity[0][1].

Fully FOSS, private, and all ads removed.

[0]: https://f-droid.org/packages/ml.docilealligator.infinityforr...

[1]: https://github.com/Docile-Alligator/Infinity-For-Reddit

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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post #18

As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

I've been on Reddit since 2008 myself and was an avid user of forums etc for years before that. When I started on Reddit there was already an element of things having changed, a move away from niche technology discussion towards lowest common denominator stuff and discussion by meme. In general this was fine as you could just move to smaller subreddits, and the bigger pages had fun cultures that permeated the others…

Reddit always had an element of \dchan in it ever since user subs were created. Coontown (and the preceding slur subreddit), FPH etc.

In my view this is just a symptom of the wider populace gaining access to internet forums and the cultural shift mass internet usage brought. As in, there have always been darker corners of the internet, just that the people who frequented them had to have some level of nerdiness/geekiness and {nerds}∩{violent racists} is smaller than {whole population}∩{violent racists}.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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While those were both issues. There was a lot more quality text discussion on the site during that era.

I've been active on Reddit for 14 years. The quality of discussion has been more or less unchanged overall, but you must choose your subreddits in order for that to be true. All of the major subreddits have gotten watered down because that's what happens when 29 million users (r/pics) are voting on comments. Communities change fundamentally when they scale up. The answer is to seek out smaller communities. The smarte…

> they were absolutely right

They were right only because their goal was to increase the number of users to the largest extent possible.

> everyone on Reddit criticized them for it

... and they were also right, because at the time reddit was a community for mostly tech news, similarly to what HN represents now. Creating the subreddits led to the tech part of the community to be splintered and then get more and more watered down as time went by. It's sad.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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I have a different take: The main problem with reddit is in how badly it's bungled its several different redesigns over the last few years, and how it's slowly ruined its users' experience in misguided attempts to drive mobile traffic to its app. Right now, here's the process for browsing a subreddit on mobile without the (ads and tracking loaded) reddit app: 1. Navigate to subreddit. Find out which of two (non-NSFW)…

I switched to using a self-hosted libreddit[1] instance for these same reasons.

It's a death knell when someone creates an alternative frontend for your website because the usability is so bad. Libreddit did just that for Reddit. It fixes/removes all the bullshit that Reddit introduced in the last 10 years.

[1] https://github.com/spikecodes/libreddit

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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I think Reddit is fantastic. So much interesting and useful content. It’s amazing to me that it isn’t full of spam if you think about how much of that there is on the internet these days so personally I think the mods are doing a really good job.

There are good subreddits indeed. I like the ability to split content thematically into subreddits. Unlike HN, this allows me to better focus on what interests me, and what I'm not interested in, I don't even get to see. On HN, instead, there's just one big pot, and what interests me often doesn't even make it to the front page, or only for a few minutes. Also on hckrnews.com I only see stuff that already has a minimum number of points. So I often go to the RSS feed; there I often find the more interesting posts than on the front page.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Sounds like you haven't met any reddit mods. And no, web3 offers nothing except the ability to try and control your digital currency and make money off you.

I agree. The Reddit mods I've dealt with were nasty people.

I think the tiny amount of power goes to people's heads. Power-tripping moderators of small subreddits are a dime a dozen.

The larger problem is that most subreddits are moderated by a handful of people, whose interest is expressly _moderating_. They don't care about the community. How could they, they have so many? And the power absolutely goes to their head.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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post #18

As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

I've been on Reddit since 2008 myself and was an avid user of forums etc for years before that. When I started on Reddit there was already an element of things having changed, a move away from niche technology discussion towards lowest common denominator stuff and discussion by meme. In general this was fine as you could just move to smaller subreddits, and the bigger pages had fun cultures that permeated the others…

> The difficult change I've seen in the past few years is the rising number of hate and harassment subs, and Reddit tolerating them. If you scroll through the top of /r/BanFemaleHateSubs or /r/AgainstDegenerateSubs you'll see how bad things have become and how unsafe the general environment is.

The r/BanThisandThat subreddits are little more than morality police. Many of those posts will take statements out of context or regard any "cis-het" sexual fantasies as threatening to women.

> It's not that discussion has become worse in an Eternal September way, it's that discussion has become openly threatening, with innocent women having their pictures and social media links shared for strangers to discuss rape and murder fantasy, and this gets 10s of 1000s of subscribers and Reddit routinely ignores reports about it.

Firstly, social media accounts aren't secret. Anyone who publishes to a Twitter or FB account cannot claim a retroactive right to privacy. The other contention I have is that Reddit should not punish a written expression of thought merely because it's unpalatable to a certain section of its userbase. Pandering to a moral minority sets up a precedent for the most loudest performing "victims"-of-the-day to decide what everyone else is allowed to say, hear, or think.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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post #180

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Yes, being permabanned on some Internet discussion forum is the single defining characteristic of a human being! Off to the Gulag with him and shame him whenever he speaks up! /s

You don't just get permabanned with extreme prejudice. The author is leaving out a huuuuge chunk of the story.

Yeah... usually the 'worst' that could happen is their specific account being shaddow-banned.

Being _permabanned_ suggests that they've done something particularly egregious. Either that, or their behavior is indistinguishable from a spam bot.

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