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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

LewisVerstappen wrote: post #3

It's honestly astonishing to see how poorly the leadership team at Reddit has been executing. People shit on Twitter (Zuck called Twitter "a clown car that fell into a gold mine") but Reddit is so much worse. The fact that Reddit didn't have a decent mobile app until a few years ago is unbelievable. Indie-developers were shipping a better reddit mobile apps than the company.

I bought Apollo (iOS, highly recommend) out of sheer spite for Reddit pushing their own shitty mobile version through dark patterns and shitty design.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by gsatic »

uhhhhhhhhhhhh wrote: post #114
mjr00 wrote: post #18

As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

You're looking at it all wrong. Kind of through the lens of an narcissist. Not nearly as many people have had the opportunity to even become "full" intellectuals. The irony here is that while the world burns, the easiest solution is raising that bar for them by challenging them and leading them into better paradigms, through interaction and debate or even arguments. Without your presence amongst the people on that pl…

No one has educated anyone sitting in the middle of a circus full of novelty, over stimulation, distractions and interruptions.

Yes "Education" requires patient teachers, but it also requires a very specific environment without all of the above. You don't have to look to social media platforms for it cause that's not where education happens.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by winternett »

endtime wrote: post #33
ivraatiems wrote: post #12

I have a different take: The main problem with reddit is in how badly it's bungled its several different redesigns over the last few years, and how it's slowly ruined its users' experience in misguided attempts to drive mobile traffic to its app. Right now, here's the process for browsing a subreddit on mobile without the (ads and tracking loaded) reddit app: 1. Navigate to subreddit. Find out which of two (non-NSFW)…

I use the app Joey on Android, works great. I still use old.reddit.com on desktop, and probably always will.

redditp.com is my usual go to... No comments or likes, just the content... You can alter the url to show subs only (e.g. redditp.com/r/#) and it works without a log-in, provided v.reddit doesn't go unresponsive (which happens a lot no matter what).

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by oefrha »

winternett wrote: post #130
happymellon wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean 9gag surely. I thought they were the ones that stole everyone else's content, or are we just having the same conversation that we were having 15 years ago. Content theft on the internet is as old as the internet.

It's not the same discussion. a lot more sites pay content creators now. There are many people that work hard on their content. Many sites are engaged in fostering hijacked content, and they quietly do nothing about it because it makes them a lot of untraceable money, a LOT more money than 9gag ever made off of stolen memes... Perhaps it should be called Content Laundering? Reddit has even gone as far as to prohibit…

Yeah, at least twice now a content creator friend of mine went viral (think tens of millions of views) without getting much of the traffic herself; the thieving accounts/networks captured almost all of the benefits. Having those taken down have proven to be almost impossible. It’s disgusting.

Edit: In addition, just recently she managed to ward off a blatant thief and finally drive traffic from another hit to herself. But the income lost to the thief in the first few days? Forget about it.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by jraby3 »

thefz wrote: post #109
sirspacey wrote: post #14

I cannot buy into a wholesale generalization that mods are power tripping people who deserve our contempt because they are lonely. There’s all kinds of motivations for being a mod. I rarely find a sub where mods aren’t dealing with far more BS than they are putting out. If I don’t agree with how mods handle a channel, I leave. I think it’s important that we question the usefulness of blaming society for the lack of q…

You are automatically banned from some subs if you comment/post in other blacklisted, "rival" communities. Let this sink in.

I was banned in a very popular sub (crazyfuckingvideos) with a million subscribers because I also subscribed to banpitbulls.

You can’t post any pro Israel news on /r/politics.

Their definitely needs to be stronger guidelines in place for mods, especially as they become sizable.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by pseudo0 »

himinlomax wrote: post #140
Angostura wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Give an example - you can do that here.

One word: transgender. Any light criticism or joke results in a subreddit and site wide ban.

100% accurate, they purged all the feminist subreddits that aligned with JK Rowling a couple years back. Ironically you are now hard-pressed to find a moderator on r/TwoXChromosomes who actually has two X chromosomes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/hovdsi/just_...

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by vin047 »

anotherrandom wrote: post #120

Reddit is largely garbage. Some bits of it are alright, but it has definitely gone downhill since Swartz passed. At this point the only good forums I am aware of are this one and Bogleheads, apart from a few still-decent parts of reddit that aren't completely astroturfed by corporations or packed full of lower-level midwits (i.e. any subreddit with a subscriber count close to or over 500k). Anyone else know of good p…

I’ve been trying [Lemmy](https://join-lemmy.org) for a while - it’s an open source, federated alternative to Reddit (and uses an interface similar to old.reddit.com). The main instance has a pretty heavy left bias, and like all less well known social media platforms, it suffers from a lack of content and engagement. But these are issues that can be tackled over time with more users joining the platform.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by zarzavat »

agumonkey wrote: post #170
sannysanoff wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

stopped using reddit after they introduced new design. My browser struggles scrolling it smoothly (in most compressed mode). Too complex DOM they put there. Lack of programming skills.

The tech aspect is problematic but to me it shows they don't understand what made reddit special. It's was that borked website that made people have nice convos and spaces(if you don't look at r/donald etc). The programming/UX was almost irrelevant, it was the social spirit behind that made it interesting.

It’s especially ironic given that Reddit owed much of its early popularity to the Digg exodus after a similarly myopic redesign. Nothing changes.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by AlecSchueler »

mjr00 wrote: post #18

As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

I've been on Reddit since 2008 myself and was an avid user of forums etc for years before that.

When I started on Reddit there was already an element of things having changed, a move away from niche technology discussion towards lowest common denominator stuff and discussion by meme.

In general this was fine as you could just move to smaller subreddits, and the bigger pages had fun cultures that permeated the others and gave it all a sense of unity and shared interest even when you were in your bubble.

The difficult change I've seen in the past few years is the rising number of hate and harassment subs, and Reddit tolerating them. If you scroll through the top of /r/BanFemaleHateSubs or /r/AgainstDegenerateSubs you'll see how bad things have become and how unsafe the general environment is.

It's not that discussion has become worse in an Eternal September way, it's that discussion has become openly threatening, with innocent women having their pictures and social media links shared for strangers to discuss rape and murder fantasy, and this gets 10s of 1000s of subscribers and Reddit routinely ignores reports about it.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by jklqa »

huimang wrote: post #137
jotm wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm permabanned from Reddit, as in all my accounts (yes, I let it get so bad I had multiple accounts) and any new accounts (yep... tried making more) are banned based on previous logins and IPs (they're actually pretty thorough with it). Some mods are power tripping, but also the value of a user is now near-zero. As long as you don't piss off too many, your subreddit will be fine. Especially for popular keywords - it…

Honestly, I'm not sure if anyone is really interested in advice from someone who somehow managed to get permabanned on reddit.

Yes, being permabanned on some Internet discussion forum is the single defining characteristic of a human being! Off to the Gulag with him and shame him whenever he speaks up! /s
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