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Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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I'll be the begrudging devils advocate for a decision that is sure to have devastating consequences for poor women in red states. It is good for unelected bodies like the Supreme Court to allow such dividing issues be figured out democratically. The US house has bled power to the other 3 institutions and of them, the judiciary is the least democratic. Ofc, my support for this change assumes that this Supreme Court wi…

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I enjoyed GP is talking about hyperpolarization, and you come in saying that it’s all a conservative issue, using an “Atlantic” article as your source.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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post #330

I'll be the begrudging devils advocate for a decision that is sure to have devastating consequences for poor women in red states. It is good for unelected bodies like the Supreme Court to allow such dividing issues be figured out democratically. The US house has bled power to the other 3 institutions and of them, the judiciary is the least democratic. Ofc, my support for this change assumes that this Supreme Court wi…

The court's view on the 2nd amendment is so wildly, outrageously out of line with the Founder's intentions, and the actual text of the law, that any hope of "restraint towards political activism" is beyond futile.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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I'm curious to ask some pro xhoice folks, respectfully, how they reconsile the fact that they believe abortion is murder, and also at the same time are seemingly pro military, war, and pro militarization of thr police. I'm genuinely curious how those two world views can coexist in the same mind. So a soldier who kills in the name of their country, even in a conflict that we can all agree was at best morally debatable…

Plenty of discussion about that on contemporary philosophy. You should just search a bit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Defense_of_Abortion

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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I'm pro-choice but I still believe that this is the right move. > “My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights.…

You believe it is right on a technicality, but don't care to factor in the women who are guaranteed an early, unnecessary death because of this ruling?

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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I work for a company, headquartered in the Mid West, that has been very public in their support of LGBTQ rights, among other things. Do you think corporations should take a public stance in support of abortion rights? Will tech companies continue to flock to Texas, in what will become a very difficult environment for abortion?

They will if they have some kind of tax relief.

Texas has no income tax. But the property tax functions as a backdoor income tax because there is rich school district to poor school district redistribution. Therefore property taxes are high in Texas, though not higher than, say, in New Jersey (which also has an income tax).

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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I fail to see what moderates can do in a two party system where gerrymandering is so heavily done that often Democrats have to win 3-1 to control any majority. At this point I see it as a fight between rich landowners+business owners+religion vs all the rest of the people . For a country where political lobbying and donations to effect legal decisions is common , I do not expect judgements to ever be fair. The battle…

Change to proportional representatin or runoff elections. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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post #330

I'll be the begrudging devils advocate for a decision that is sure to have devastating consequences for poor women in red states. It is good for unelected bodies like the Supreme Court to allow such dividing issues be figured out democratically. The US house has bled power to the other 3 institutions and of them, the judiciary is the least democratic. Ofc, my support for this change assumes that this Supreme Court wi…

I don't even know if you and I agree on political issues, but I'd vote for you.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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Separate abortion from Roe v. Wade. The big challenge has been that Roe v. Wade was horribly decided. Even RBG thought so. Roe v wade gave the Supreme Court the right to make law without reference to any text in the constitution. Casey tried to change the justification but it still was a disaster. Sadly it is far from the only time the Supreme Court has made things up out of whole cloth that has had massive societal…

Roe V. Wade has decades of precedent. Even if the ruling was "horribly decided," this is not a good look for the legitimacy of the court. Especially at a time when the country is more polarized than ever. This is just horribly timed and will further split this country apart. This will be our century's dredd scott - the court "thought" this would settle the issue. But it won't: "Although Taney and several other justic…

Roberts’s concurrence essentially says that too. Honestly his concurrence reads more like a dissent to me.
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