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As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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The benefits often outweigh the 'spying on you', which is usually just targeted ads.

It's not about ads. it's about manipulation and gathering data to be used against you at every and any opportunity. The data that's sold and passed around is used to determine things like how much you pay for things vs your neighbor. It determines what services you are offered and at what terms. If a store thinks I make more money than you, I might for example be told they've got a return policy that is much more gen…

Ten years ago Sherry Terkel, in Alone Together, described various electronic companions being deployed, even for very young kids. Imagine a dossier/record of all your secret whispers to electronic "friends" recorded from the time you are three years old. As the comments above suggest, the risks go beyond merely violating informed consent.

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You'd think that would work, but it doesn't and I don't know why. Maybe because you still get the same % in the hit but it just doesn't last as long? For people that use vaporizers like mine, you also need to have a certain amount for the vaporizer to be effective otherwise you get nothing out of it which leads to inserting even more weed and suddenly you have more in your system than you meant to. The higher percent…

You can actually throw a wad of sterile cotton into your vape to fill the chamber. Pax even sells a half pack lid for their packs. For your case you can also cut your high dose stuff with a cbd only strain right in your grinder to whatever ratio you want. The ground up weed would be no different at all from a low dose strain and certainly a lot more accessible.

That's just not something people who smoke pot very rarely are going to do.

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> I've had periods of my life where I've abused it and I regret every one of those days. I think I am starting to wake up to this. I do find enjoyment in it, and there is such a sunk cost fallacy I keep factoring in too. I mean do I take occasional breaks, but probably not enough. It had definitely helped me lower my inhibitions enough to introspectively identity some issues that were deeply hidden under the surface…

The way I see it, throughout history I'm sure millions of people have just gone crazy by the everyday burdens of life. We might have more availability to forms of therapy but in the end it's up to you to balance your life. Soul controller.

That is something I have been slowly starting to realize. I lack ambition and without ambition I have nothing to work towards, which in turn makes finding a balance difficult.

I've been trying to do some soul searching to find out what I truly want, but I've chalked it up to, "I'll know it when I see it." And till then, I must keep searching.

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The benefits often outweigh the 'spying on you', which is usually just targeted ads.

No, this is not an accurate assessment of what is at stake here. So yeah, targeted ads and spooky tv sets are annoying at the least but the poing is that the infrastructure could easily support 1984 style monitors. Regardless of the purpose of current usage, this is infrastructure for a surveillance society. That is the issue. The infrastructure is not going to go away unless we rip it down [down to and including tra…

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> South Park also put it well when they understood that total abstinence is not the only way to deal with the situation. Maybe all it takes is a little discipline. Exercising a "little discipline" doesn't really work for addictive substances. In my experience, high-functioning people with tons of impulse control often don't appreciate that others around them have more limited capacity for that. Despite drinking a lot…

The south park’s point in that episode wasn’t to deny the existence of substance abuse disorder. Rather the point was that not everyone that does dumb stuff one time while drinking has it. In this episode Randy didn’t have Substance abuse disorder. He took the kids for a drive after drinking. He was caught and the court ordered him to undergo treatment despite there not being any proof that he was an alcoholic. This…

In case anyone is curious, the South Park Archives fandom page on Randy Marsh has a section entitled "Alcoholism": https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/Randy_Marsh#Alcoholism

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And some people don't. The story of me meeting my wife involves her roommate pouring a pint from the bottle of gin I brought as a gift - straight up to the brim.

Sure, you kind examples to the contrary for just about anything. There are absolutely people who do things that are bad for their health, or even downright dangerous. But this behaviour is an outlier - even these people (typically young 'uns, often at college/uni) don't do this kind of thing on a daily basis.

But this is the very heart of the problem. When the fatal dose is within the single package size, it's hard to argue it isn't a "risk". Why else is fentanyl so much more dangerous than other opioids? The dose makes the poison.

Stupidity is also a risk factor. Risks multiply. Product safety is often about managing tails, not the mode. You only need to die once.

Back to the original comment - the thing about weed is that it basically impossible to kill (or even directly injure) yourself with o/d. By that measure, even "super-weed" is much safer than whiskey.

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I'm 90% sure that "endless marathons" referred to "watching entire seasons of shows on NetFlix", not "running 26.2 miles over and over".

Although if you are a good runner, I've heard moderate cannabis usage can help bring on the runners high much quicker making running more fun.

"Stuff that makes serotonin is known to increase the onset of effects of serotonin."

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Good question. I'd also like to ask GP whether they think 1.5-3g a day is a low, moderate, or high quantity in a day, in their opinion.

Not the GP but in my experience that is moderate for a habitual user (i.e. "occasional" users do not fall on this scale). Averaging an eighth of an ounce of flower or a gram of concentrate every day would be considered high usage and anything over a quarter ounce flower or two grams concentrate a day would be extreme (at that point you're getting more than a gram of the psychoactives a day, let alone all the other ca…

As a heavy stoner in the midst of a quit, I'm very surprised by the numbers you gave. I would characterize 1.5-3g as "heavy smoker", 1/8 oz/day as extremely heavy smoker, and 1/4 oz/day as unbelievable.

To put it in monetary terms (error +/-50%) this is about $20/$40/$80 / day, respectfully.

I don't intend to change your opinion on this, just sharing my perspective.

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With psychedelics some refer to a "museum dose" — that amount you can use that would allow a person to visit an art museum and enjoy the experience. There are similarities with cannabis and other drugs (including alcohol of course). That said, sometimes a little dab is enough to throw things off — fun story: I was practicing the Filipino Martial Arts and my teacher had a hit off a blunt some fellows practicing kinda-…

> a "museum dose" — that amount you can use that would allow a person to visit an art museum and enjoy the experience This feels sad to me, and sounds like another angle on the same issue raised above. You should be able to enjoy/engage with culture while sober; I'd describe needing to be high to connect with art as a dependency and a problem.

I think what they meant was a dose that still lets you enjoy it, not a dose required to enjoy it.

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> Second, stress causes cancer. That is quite a statement.

Stress › Inflammatory response › cancer

> The best quality studies have followed up many people for several years. They have found no evidence that those who are more stressed are more likely to get cancer.

> Some people wonder whether stress causes breast cancer. But overall, the evidence for this has been poor. And a large study of over 100,000 women in the UK in 2016 showed no consistent evidence between stress and breast cancer.

There are plenty of other articles around summarizing studies like this.

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