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As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by alexk307 »

akhmatova wrote: post #554
gunfighthacksaw wrote: post #545

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Apologies to mods for low effort reply to low effort post but you obviously care enough to have posted and responded.

No - I care (somewhat) about basic factual accuracy when it comes to public health debates. What I don't care about is [sic] "other people do or don’t want to deal with your version of life?"

> No - I care (somewhat) about basic factual accuracy when it comes to public health debates.

What facts did you state during this debate? You just asserted your opinion that cannabis causes people to stop caring and only watch movies.

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Post by oaththrowaway »

aaaaaaaaata wrote: post #629
oaththrowaway wrote: post #570

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Are you the owner or something?

No. Is this account's history that bad that I should've mentioned that in the negative? ha

Just curious when I see a product recommendation here.

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Post by adamsmith143 »

akhmatova wrote: post #554
gunfighthacksaw wrote: post #545

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apologies to mods for low effort reply to low effort post but you obviously care enough to have posted and responded.

No - I care (somewhat) about basic factual accuracy when it comes to public health debates. What I don't care about is [sic] "other people do or don’t want to deal with your version of life?"

>No - I care (somewhat) about basic factual accuracy when it comes to public health debates.

Huh what facts were in your post?

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Post by jamal-kumar »

sealthedeal wrote: post #500
jamal-kumar wrote: post #431

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I think it's a bit more than that. It makes your mind wander in different directions, in a way that lends itself to things like writing original jokes or coming up with a different angle on problems or ideas that can be solved with more 'out of the box' solutions. It does something to the associative memory in which it makes associations which you wouldn't normally assert (Which is where I think a lot of people who d…

I think that the creativity when high is basically the stress relief that THC can give. So essentially you are a blank slate, no worries, and can put your attention onto an issue and ideas seem to just "come from no where". It all comes down to stress relief.

Yeah but on the flip side what is stress relief for some becomes a thought looping panic attack for others

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Post by eternalban »

tim333 wrote: post #624
autoexec wrote: post #621

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Right? The fact that we have all this cool tech, but it's all actively being used against us instead of working for us really dulls my enthusiasm for technology. What good is it if we get robot butlers or personal AI assistants if the assistants can't keep our personal info to themselves and the robots record everything they see and hear and stream that back to MegaCorp along with extensive telemetry detailing every…

The benefits often outweigh the 'spying on you', which is usually just targeted ads.

No, this is not an accurate assessment of what is at stake here.

So yeah, targeted ads and spooky tv sets are annoying at the least but the poing is that the infrastructure could easily support 1984 style monitors.

Regardless of the purpose of current usage, this is infrastructure for a surveillance society. That is the issue. The infrastructure is not going to go away unless we rip it down [down to and including transport layer] and rebuild with privacy and other human rights protections as a primary requirement of ubiquitous networking. DARPA was not concerned about these matters so all these fall under the 'operators discretion'.

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Post by mtnGoat »

aaaaaaaaata wrote: post #630
mtnGoat wrote: post #250

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FWIW, the idea that weed is getting "stronger" isn't necessarily true. There have been growers and strains that could get 25%+ since the 70s. Its just that those techniques are more widely known/shared and these higher numbers are easier to get to for more growers because of this shared knowledge.

The strongest weed isn't getting stronger. Weed on average is getting stronger.

This is a very correct assessment, well stated.

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Post by daveslash »

gowld wrote: post #462
davidrupp wrote: post #411

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More info at https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spiel . Pronounced as you (gp) spelled it phonetically because it's borrowed from German.

It's taken from Yiddish, which took it from German.

From Yiddish? I didn't know that. Interesting and Thank You.

A few years ago, I used the word "Schmuck", and someone asked me if I was Jewish (I'm not). I didn't realize that "Schmuck" was also a Yiddish word until then. I looked it up, and I didn't realize that some Yiddish speaking people consider it to be obscene profanity! So now I use a little more sparingly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmuck_(pejorative)

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Post by INTPenis »

hirvi74 wrote: post #473
INTPenis wrote: post #359

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I'm doing what I love buzzed right now, building a cluster for my homelab, creating a hybrid cloud solution to host some services and saving on money by leveraging cheap compute at home. But yes, Randy Marsh was absolutely right. I've had periods of my life where I've abused it and I regret every one of those days.

> I've had periods of my life where I've abused it and I regret every one of those days. I think I am starting to wake up to this. I do find enjoyment in it, and there is such a sunk cost fallacy I keep factoring in too. I mean do I take occasional breaks, but probably not enough. It had definitely helped me lower my inhibitions enough to introspectively identity some issues that were deeply hidden under the surface…

The way I see it, throughout history I'm sure millions of people have just gone crazy by the everyday burdens of life. We might have more availability to forms of therapy but in the end it's up to you to balance your life. Soul controller.

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Post by worker_person »

soared wrote: post #555
worker_person wrote: post #332

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Yep my daughter had a friend introduce her. She spent 5 years on it. 100% dependent on it. Entire time swearing up and down it didn't affect her. Of course we could all tell. Only when her finance had a psychotic breakdown and tried to kill everyone from it did she finally get off of it. Was 2 months before he didn't sound like an anime villain who was going to take over the world. She keeps commenting at much more e…

You are definitely not talking about weed

Yes. I actually am. They both smoked it. She said it seemed fine. He went insane. They tested him. Weed was only thing in system. Full blown psychosis. He had God talking to him. He was God. He was going to have hurt my daughter in divine punishment. He crapped in the tub. His computer was all powerful and was controlling the world. He showed up at his work to hurt them. That's when we found out about it. He got hauled off to a mental facility where they had to keep him tied down for multiple days. Kept trying to hurt the staff. When he stopped being violent, he was still highly delusional for a solid month.

https://www.brightquest.com/cannabis-induced-psychosis/psych....

Bottom line, he can never touch weed again. They can't be around people that do. They've lost most of their friends. Friends didn't agree about them giving up weed. They are starting to make new friends.

They are doing far better now.

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Post by autoexec »

tim333 wrote: post #624
autoexec wrote: post #621

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Right? The fact that we have all this cool tech, but it's all actively being used against us instead of working for us really dulls my enthusiasm for technology. What good is it if we get robot butlers or personal AI assistants if the assistants can't keep our personal info to themselves and the robots record everything they see and hear and stream that back to MegaCorp along with extensive telemetry detailing every…

The benefits often outweigh the 'spying on you', which is usually just targeted ads.

It's not about ads. it's about manipulation and gathering data to be used against you at every and any opportunity. The data that's sold and passed around is used to determine things like how much you pay for things vs your neighbor. It determines what services you are offered and at what terms.

If a store thinks I make more money than you, I might for example be told they've got a return policy that is much more generous than what they'll tell you. There are places where you will wait longer on hold, getting repeatedly bumped back to make room for people who have a better "consumer score" than you do.

The data is handed over to the state and locked away until it's useful to them. It's can get you arrested or questioned by police when you've committed no crime. It can get you sued for things which should not be crimes but are. It's used by politicians who carve out the borders of their districts specifically to limit the ability for your vote to make any difference.

That data is used to target you with lies and misinformation. It allows you to be targeted by extremist groups. It can be used to decide if you get hired or not. You could be turned down for housing because of it. There are millions of things that might prejudice another person against you. Your lifestyle, your politics, your religion, the people you associate with, your sexual history, your medical conditions, etc. You can't know who is accessing your information or for what reason, or know how accurate that data is, or know if/how it is being protected.

It's a gross violation of your rights, which yes, sometimes is used to manipulate you into buying something you might not have bought otherwise, but increasingly is used for much much more and once the intimate details of your life have been taken from you, you can never take them back or prevent them from spreading.

However much you enjoy the products that are spying you, you can't ever say if the benefits outweigh the costs. You aren't even allowed to know what the costs are or when you are paying for them, and there will never come a time when you have paid in full and it can no longer cost you something else.

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