I use NoScript and block Google analytics, facebook, etc. It's nice that they use a domain separate from google.com, making it easy to block.
Yes. I have all their analytics and ad network domains blocked in my hosts file.
Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics
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Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not illegal to give things away for free unless it's dumping.
It's not illegal to give things away for free unless it's dumping. Which is exactly my point. "[Dumping] occurs when manufacturers export a product... at a price below the normal price with an injuring effect. The objective of dumping is to increase market share in... by driving out competition and thereby create a monopoly situation" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping_(pricing_policy) That's exactly what's happen…
> Google prices Analytics at $0 to prevent any competition from starting up.
It's not dumping because, in the absence of any competition, the price hasn't changed. It just turns out the market price for this service is $0.
Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics
#273Good. US citizens should be, at least, disappointed that their government is so bad at protecting their privacy, that US law is so far behind the times. To those companies and people who find these EU decisions baffling or inconvenient: tough. If you had had respect for your users this would not be an issue. You would already not be spying on them. To website visitors: if you see a cookie banner, the site is asking p…
America is the LTS branch of Democracy.
more like the archived repository on Github
Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics
#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is that not fully legal? Wouldn't the same law prevent Google USA from querying PII data from Google Italia?
Italian laws do not apply to Google USA.
But someone will have to foot the bill when their branch in Italy is fined by the government for violating Italian law
Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics
#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
> i’d love to see a constitutional amendment explicitly separating corporate interests from governmental ones How is that possible, since corporations are, by definition, creations of government through law?
i mean, that's like asking how is it possible to compartmentalize anything. as elaborated elsewhere, it isn't about literally separating all interests, just those that harm the public. it's about removing the negative externalies that companies like google impose on us via such government contracts.
> just those that harm the public
But it’s not that simple. What harms the public? Many would argue being able to use data google collects (legally through subpoenas or grey-legally through any of the number reports that have come out since Snowden) helps government agencies by increasing public security—thus the opposite of harm. Being
Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics
#276Another decision in a long stream that will make it much harder for EU start-ups companies to catch up to American ones. With absolutely no improvements to actual EU citizen well being.
or maybe EU is starring to rely on their own startups.
If I had to chose an analytics software for a customer's website, I'd chose someone in EU for the sole reason that it would be compliant in both EU and the rest of the World.
Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics
#277I don't understand.
They can host locally the data and remotely query it.
What's important is the "intelligence" the data does provide: giving critical and unfair advantage for those who have the whole data.
For instance, microsoft has an unfair advantage almost anywhere because they have access to the whole linkedin database.
Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics
#278Regarding forbidden countries, it’s not forbidden in the Netherlands, yet. They will announce a verdict in a form of a report by the end of 2022 [1].
To give people an option and pink something else over Google Analytics, I have built an alternative, Simple Analytics [2].
It doesn’t use cookies or any form of tracking and you get still the useful data that 80% of the website owners need.
[1] https://autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl/nl/onderwerpen/interne... (in Dutch)
Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics
#279Good. US citizens should be, at least, disappointed that their government is so bad at protecting their privacy, that US law is so far behind the times. To those companies and people who find these EU decisions baffling or inconvenient: tough. If you had had respect for your users this would not be an issue. You would already not be spying on them. To website visitors: if you see a cookie banner, the site is asking p…
> To website visitors: if you see a cookie banner, the site is asking permission to spy on you. If that concerns you, close the tab.
I'd love to see how often people do anything besides click okay anyway (I'd be very surprised if it wasn't 99%+).
Re: Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics
#280Another decision in a long stream that will make it much harder for EU start-ups companies to catch up to American ones. With absolutely no improvements to actual EU citizen well being.
Isn't this an opportunity for EU startups? By choosing to enforce the law on US companies that EU companies are already generally very compliant with, surely the EU has levelled the playing field for EU companies?
A little advantage for EU analytics startups, disadvantage for all other EU startups and SMBs who have less options for figuring out what users like about their website and offerings.