Italian watchdog bans use of Google Analytics

Post by olalonde » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 7:56 PM UTC

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #120

olalonde wrote: post #112

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> It's a consumer protection law, what you want is consumers with less or no protections. Yes, indeed. I don't believe the government should mandate specific protections consumers should receive, because it just serves to reduce consumer options. And this is also why I wish GDPR would have been opt in, giving more options to consumers. For example, in a world with no government mandated "2 year warranty", some manufa…

> Yes, indeed. I don't believe the government should mandate specific protections consumers should receive, What you believe or not it's completely irrelevant. In my Country consumer protection is in the Constitution, at article 41. [1] So the government is duty bound to protect the consumers. Thanks God I was born here and not in olalonde-land. [1] Art. 41 Private economic enterprise is free. It may not be carried o…

Post by Swenrekcah » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 7:56 PM UTC

aliasxneo wrote: post #119

leephillips wrote: post #24

Good. US citizens should be, at least, disappointed that their government is so bad at protecting their privacy, that US law is so far behind the times. To those companies and people who find these EU decisions baffling or inconvenient: tough. If you had had respect for your users this would not be an issue. You would already not be spying on them. To website visitors: if you see a cookie banner, the site is asking p…

> To website visitors: if you see a cookie banner, the site is asking permission to spy on you. If that concerns you, close the tab. There was a recent ACM article on this. They found there was a large number of sites that don't actually ask permission for anything, they are simply informing you of the spying. Not surprisingly, the ones that did allow modifying cookies were all setup in a predatory fashion which disc…

Post by clairity » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 7:57 PM UTC

abarwick wrote: post #123

clairity wrote: post #117

i’d support any legislation that booted google, fb, ms, adobe, salesforce, and a whole host of other surveillance tech companies from any and all levels of government. it’s literally as important as the separation of church and state. in fact, i’d love to see a constitutional amendment explicitly separating corporate interests from governmental ones, in all facets of civic life (e.g., campaign finance).

This is just naive. Government offices/agencies are so tightly coupled with packages like office 365 that forcefully separating them would require home built solutions which would always be terrible, less secure, and more expensive to the tax payer. There’s a lot of good these products can provide, granted they are properly audited and have high security requirements.

Post by leephillips » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 7:58 PM UTC

rattlesnakedave wrote: post #110

leephillips wrote: post #21

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I don’t find it idiotic. It was the client’s decision to spy on its users. I have no sympathy for companies who make that decision.

It was the client’s decision to use the service.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 8:00 PM UTC

stingraycharles wrote: post #23

corywatilo wrote: post #18

Italy is the 4th in a string of recent decisions across the EU. (We're tracking these cases on isgoogleanalyticsillegal.com along with details for each.) Note that it's not illegal to use GA entirely, just illegal to use in its default state which transmits PII to the US.

That is an extremely important nuance which is not obvious from the title.