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As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by honkycat »

effingwewt wrote: post #199
honkycat wrote: post #174

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> As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "normal". And you just won't get as much out of your life as you could get, won't achieve as much relationship success, professional success, or personal fulfillment. You can form a bad relationship with literally anything. Social media, television, video games. The smartest and most passionate developer I have ever known smoked weed literally every day. There are…

This is how I cope. My brain runs away with me, coupled with OCD (people love to romanticize it byt forget about the obsessive/compulsive part). With that and depression and anxiety, the meds prescribed to me were insane, as were the side effects (many permanent too- fuck that). Weed was the lesser of the evils. I don't drink because aside from the fact that I hate the taste of alcohol, what I really detest is the lo…

You should look into Zoloft. A lot of my friends and family take it for anxiety.

It is a pretty safe, minor, and not intense anxiety medication that I hear has a bit of a funky/fun edge to it.

I was gonna start on it next month to try it out.

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Post by jokethrowaway »

Taywee wrote: post #378
worker_person wrote: post #336

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Watching your child being content to work at Taco Bell for the next 50 years is not something to be proud of. Regardless of contentment.

I'd be proud of it, if they were a good person, took care of themselves, took care of the people around them, and were truly happy in their lives. Some people are perfectly happy working low-level positions in restaurants, sanitation, retail, and the like for their lives, and maybe maintaining a few hobbies and relationships that give them personal meaning off their work hours. It's only a problem if they aren't actu…

You can be proud of achievements.

The harder the achievement, the harder it is to automate that achievement, the prouder I will be.

Working at Taco Bell is not that hard to obtain and may very well not exist in 10 years.

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Post by oblib »

Teens have always done stupid shit. They'll drink till they puke at every party they go to until they grow up and get tired of it, or they become adult alcoholics.

When I was a teen I watched my friends having contest to see who could take the biggest bong hits and "press" them the longest without coughing. I always declined to participate in those contests. I was well known to be a "lightweight", but that moniker never bothered me.

Those who called me that were the same kids who'd chug whiskey they stole from their parents and then hug toilets while puking until they passed out on the bathroom floor.

Edibles are akin to taking pills. You don't know how hard they're going to hit you until they do, and if it's too hard you're stuck with it until it wears off.

Vapes are akin to big bong hits. When I was a teen I saw teens puke after taking a few too many giant bong hits. They were having bong hit competitions.

It's very easy to regulate the effects of weed by taking a tiny puff and putting it down for a few minutes.

So, it's not that weed is more potent. It's easy to sip a bit of whiskey too, but you can get just as puking drunk guzzling beer as slamming shots.

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Post by gowld »

rtp4me wrote: post #441
nshung wrote: post #352

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Why not?

Because at some point, the $9.50/hr job at Taco Bell will run its course, and your child will end up with severely limited resources. Together with a lack of funding and poor health care options, your children will probably return back home to "evaluate their situation". At that point, they will start wondering why they have been left behind in society, why the system is rigged against them, etc. As we all know (and…

Why would you want someone to never learn that the system is rigged against them? So they blame themselves for their oppression?

Millions of people will never rise above minmim wage jobs.

Why fix that for one person ,and not for all?

A Taco Bell worker probably has more free energy and intrest for tackling big problems like protesting against the oligarchs.

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Post by efields »

kromem wrote: post #429

It's a serious problem that we're getting rid of the CBD in products. CBD is a natural antipsychotic. There's some very promising research on it alone as a treatment for schizophrenia even: https://academic.oup.com/schizbullopen/article/3/1/sgab053/6... And a large body of research on how it reduces the potential psychotic side effects of THC. But go into a dispensary and ask for a 1:1 or even a 1:2 THC:CBD product,…

Louder, louder for the people in the back.

The market controlling genetics in plant propagation has consistently lead to favoring bigger, more uniform, more shelf-stable, and this has always lead to less nutrition, over-consumption, and more waste.

The same thing is happening with BOTH drug cannabis and industrial (CBD) hemp. The low threshold of .3% THC for hemp to be legal for any grower in the US is an arbitrary ass number, so by breeding to it who knows what’s getting lost in the genetic dustbin.

Growing your own is liberating, if not still legally dubious in the US. Repealing the prohibition against growing would likely get more people inquiring about their cannabis, just like when you go to a farmers market and enjoy substantially better quality vegetables. You can learn what went into it.

Of course the dispensary business is on the verge of becoming an entrenched lobby, and would likely rebuff any effort to legalize growing.

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Post by gowld »

blazingfrog2 wrote: post #444
lovehashbrowns wrote: post #371

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I don’t understand the thought process of putting someone down based on what they do for a living. Particularly when it just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. The world around you revolves around people that clock in and out day after day. Maybe one day we’ll have 7.5 billion CEOs in the world, huh?

> I don’t understand the thought process of putting someone down based on what they do for a living Discounting the counter productive condescension required to be the one putting the other guy down, we should all be honest with a simple fact: any typical software dev (just talking about what I know) can succeed at a gas station job while the reverse is not true. This obviously does not afford the software dev the ri…

Many, perhaps most, software devs, would utterly fail at a job that had customers, regular hours, physical labor, etc.

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

Shindi wrote: post #158
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #117

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Counter point: I am 37 years old. I quit marijuana three or four months ago, but before that I was vaping marijuana nearly every day for four years. During that time I’ve achieved more success in my career than any other time. I think it was good for me to quit. I feel more alert and more productive now. More level and less tired. Maybe I would have been more successful without it, so perhaps you are right. But then,…

I also used to smoke frequently and fully stopped. I think my grandparent makes an interesting point about how habit forming it is because it's so safe which is a good and bad. Wish I had known how habit forming it is before I started. And to your point, yes life is not just about success, it's about so much more like friends and family. That's why I hate weed. It turned my friends who were creative, thoughtful and c…

It’s funny because I’m extremely creative whether I’m smoking or not. Late last year I designed a four axis 3D printed robot arm full of custom 3D printed planetary gearboxes and brushless motors. I was stoned the whole time I was designing it. Early this year I met a bunch of skateboarders and we had a great time smoking a bit and skating in empty parking lots. I had successful creativity and good friendships while vaping. But again I used pure sativa that didn’t make me want to sit on the couch. And it was hard to find! Most weed sold in California stores is a hybrid with some of that couch lock feeling. I think some stoners just don’t realize they can get something that doesn’t knock them on their ass.

I’m not saying people should smoke or vape. But I do want to say that with care and self control it can be a habit that doesn’t cause serious problems. Though ultimately I feel much better having quit.

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Post by Dracophoenix »

sva_ wrote: post #335
sushid wrote: post #322

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Is there a Chrome version of this?

Yes. Sadly you have to install it via dev mode, and chrome seems to deactivate the extension whenever there is an update (as it needs more permissions for more sites), and I haven't found a way around it yet. https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-chrome-clean Hint: you can use it in Firefox Nightly on Android by defining your own extension collection: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-exte…

Try using ungoogled-chromium or Vivaldi. Both allow any crx extension. The only hassle for the former is having to download every new browser update manually.

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Post by dogman144 »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #200
mesofile wrote: post #119

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I thought the way that South Park put it (in the voice of Randy Marsh) many years ago was just about perfect: “Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorists, but... Well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creat…

I think this is largely the problem with mobile phones as well. Like you probably aren't going to go mad or get rectangular eyes or whatever, but you can just sort of sedate that sensation of boredom with scrolling reddit or facebook or whatever, which does all of bupkis for making us happy in the long term.

agreed. I started bookmarking a specific open source repo and automechanic wiki and I’m slowly conditioning myself to read those if I want to waste time on my phone. I enjoy reading them anyway as much (or a lot more) than Reddit or w/e, just needed to make it habitual bc I didn’t think about going to those as a first stop to get lost in. Def helps and returns the joy of having internet access, lot of cool stuff to learn.

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Post by babypuncher »

mesofile wrote: post #119
lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

I thought the way that South Park put it (in the voice of Randy Marsh) many years ago was just about perfect: “Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorists, but... Well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creat…

I think it highlights why we put age restrictions on things like this. A developing brain is far more likely to fall into this trap than and already functioning adult brain.
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