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While I should be happy with narrative (I run https://wideangle.co , GA alternative), let's be honest. It not banned. Nor is it illegal. It is illegal to use it in such a way that results in Personal Data being siphoned to the US. Is it hard? Yes. Outright illegal? Nah.
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> Yes, indeed. I don't believe the government should mandate specific protections consumers should receive, What you believe or not it's completely irrelevant. In my Country consumer protection is in the Constitution, at article 41. [1] So the government is duty bound to protect the consumers. Thanks God I was born here and not in olalonde-land. [1] Art. 41 Private economic enterprise is free. It may not be carried o…
You have the extra year protection, but you are (forcibly) paying for it. iPhone 13 Pro USA price: 999$ iPhone 13 Pro Italy price: 1250$ PS: In the US, you could probably get that extra year of warranty from Apple or from a third party (for like 20$). But you don't have to .
which anyone understands that is not the same thing.
You can also buy 2 of the same items for redundancy, I wouldn't call it "warranty" though.
> iPhone 13 Pro USA price: 999$
> iPhone 13 Pro Italy price: 1250$
The price on Apple's U.S. online store website is before taxes
But anyway that's a completely meaningless comparison:
Parmigiano Reggiano in Italy Euro ~10 / Kg
Parmigiano Reggiano in USA $ ~20 / pound AKA $ 44.4 / Kg
Italy is the 4th in a string of recent decisions across the EU. (We're tracking these cases on isgoogleanalyticsillegal.com along with details for each.) Note that it's not illegal to use GA entirely, just illegal to use in its default state which transmits PII to the US.
Some time ago Google gave EU admins the option to select a local regional (EU) server. This means the data is not send to the US. But! It’s still nog fully legal as the Google HQ (and thus the US government( can still access all the data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
(God willing they repeal it, even if only for the international commerce implications...)
Good. US citizens should be, at least, disappointed that their government is so bad at protecting their privacy, that US law is so far behind the times. To those companies and people who find these EU decisions baffling or inconvenient: tough. If you had had respect for your users this would not be an issue. You would already not be spying on them. To website visitors: if you see a cookie banner, the site is asking p…
Basically, what class of badness are Americans subjected to due to behind-the-times data protection laws, that Europeans are protected from?
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You have the extra year protection, but you are (forcibly) paying for it. iPhone 13 Pro USA price: 999$ iPhone 13 Pro Italy price: 1250$ PS: In the US, you could probably get that extra year of warranty from Apple or from a third party (for like 20$). But you don't have to .
> You have the extra year protection, but you are paying for it. which anyone understands that is not the same thing. You can also buy 2 of the same items for redundancy, I wouldn't call it "warranty" though. > iPhone 13 Pro USA price: 999$ > iPhone 13 Pro Italy price: 1250$ The price on Apple's U.S. online store website is before taxes But anyway that's a completely meaningless comparison: Parmigiano Reggiano in Ita…
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> You have the extra year protection, but you are paying for it. which anyone understands that is not the same thing. You can also buy 2 of the same items for redundancy, I wouldn't call it "warranty" though. > iPhone 13 Pro USA price: 999$ > iPhone 13 Pro Italy price: 1250$ The price on Apple's U.S. online store website is before taxes But anyway that's a completely meaningless comparison: Parmigiano Reggiano in Ita…
Of course the price premium is not exclusively due to the warranty (probably a good chunk of it is due to import tarifs and taxes). But do we agree that increasing the warranty period costs Apple more? Do we not agree that a business will tend to increase the price of its product when the cost of its product increases?
I don't.
On the contrary, I believe they should thank us for encouraging them to make better and more durable products.
If I am spending 12 hundred euros on an electronic device, the least the manufacturer can do is give me the warranty that it won't break on its own before 2 years of usage.
Anyway, Xiaomi makes perfectly valid products at 1/3 of Apple prices.
Maybe it's not the 2-year warranty the issue here...
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Why does your small blog need an "analytics solution" in the first place, if you earn $0?
Because I want to know where my readers come from, which Google terms they searched, etc.? There's a million reasons to want to know stats like this without earning money...
GA doesn't tell you which terms they searched. They mostly stopped doing this in 2013.
Google Search Console _does_ tell you the search terms, and without any tracking on your website.
Good. US citizens should be, at least, disappointed that their government is so bad at protecting their privacy, that US law is so far behind the times. To those companies and people who find these EU decisions baffling or inconvenient: tough. If you had had respect for your users this would not be an issue. You would already not be spying on them. To website visitors: if you see a cookie banner, the site is asking p…
Or you know...count how many unique visitors they have and how to make the site more useful. Do you avoid using cookies on this site but still manage to log in?
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Some time ago Google gave EU admins the option to select a local regional (EU) server. This means the data is not send to the US. But! It’s still nog fully legal as the Google HQ (and thus the US government( can still access all the data.
Why is that not fully legal? Wouldn't the same law prevent Google USA from querying PII data from Google Italia?
Well HN, how about a badge for links indicating whether it uses ga? We have to start somewhere don't we? Or we'll continue to see the web decline. Actually, from my PoV, it might be too late already. Maybe it's just me or people in EU being harassed with banner popups, but I hardly go to any link anymore, and so do many other people I know. It's just not worth it.
I'm an American, but I occasionally use an EU VPN. I don't understand how EU residents can tolerate the number of cookie/privacy/GDPR/whatever popups every site has, even on the sites of EU companies.