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As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by hestefisk »

mikestew wrote: post #49
hestefisk wrote: post #28

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Downvote? Seriously, hn? It’s a fact that hashish intake can cause psychosis.

Saying it twice doesn't make it true. Just one URI, that's all anyone asks.

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2215-0366(19)30048-3/full...

One of many. I have a close family member who developed cannabis-induced psychotic disorder in teenage years. It is a well known phenomenon. I agree that it can be a chicken-and-egg question in some cases but it doesn’t change the fact that cannabis is generally bad for your mind.

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Post by maxbond »

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

On and off daily marijuana user.

I don't feel "dopey and less intelligent" when I smoke weed at all times of the day. It actually has very little impact on me. But it does help me deal with my chronic anxiety issues.

I take breaks regularly. Sometimes I get into a place where I can't operate in my day to day life because of intrusive thoughts. When I smoke I'm able to break out of cycles of repetitive thought and make real progress in my life. I achieve so much more and get so much more out of life. I'm able to engage with the people in my life better and improve my relationships.

You speak with false authority on a matter you cannot possibly understand, because you do not share the life experience of myself or people like me. It's irresponsible and you should desist. If you have relevant experiences, share them and explain that this is your conclusion. If you don't have relevant experiences, don't include yourself in the conversation. Don't speak in generalizations about other people's lives.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by com2kid »

dfxm12 wrote: post #208
com2kid wrote: post #178

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> Coffee? every day is fine /r/nootropics, common thread is as follows: OP: "Help, I have bad anxiety every day, what should I take for it?" re: "Do you drink coffee?" OP: "Yes, about 4 cups a day." re: "Stop drinking coffee and come back in a week and tell us how you are doing." 1 week later. OP: "My anxiety is gone!!" Caffeine has negative side effects. For some people those side effects are really bad. Also caffei…

Does caffeine have negative side effects, or does caffeine, taken in excess, including in late hours of the day, have negative side effects? It's an important distinction to make in this discussion, which largely boils down to "off label use", whether we're talking about drinking simply too much coffee or people with developing brains getting too much thc.

> Does caffeine have negative side effects,

Caffeine has negative side effects. It is an addictive psychoactive drug. Its effects are mild, but, to repeat, it is an addictive psychoactive drug.

Even moderate use can cause sever anxiety in some people. L-theanine is a great counter to this. Green tea naturally has L-theanine in it and that is likely why people who drink green tea do not report anxiety (at least in significant numbers) while coffee drinkers do.

FWIW Matcha has even more L-theanine that green tea.

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Post by hestefisk »

mikestew wrote: post #49
hestefisk wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Downvote? Seriously, hn? It’s a fact that hashish intake can cause psychosis.

Saying it twice doesn't make it true. Just one URI, that's all anyone asks.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15504263.2019.1...

“Results: Consistent evidence, both from observational and experimental studies, has confirmed the important role of cannabis use in the initiation and persistence of psychotic disorders. The size of the effect is related to the extent of cannabis use, with greater risk for early cannabis use and use of high-potency varieties and synthetic cannabinoids. Accumulating evidence suggests that frequent cannabis use also increases the risk for mania as well as for suicide.”

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Post by com2kid »

bun_at_work wrote: post #225
com2kid wrote: post #178

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> Coffee? every day is fine /r/nootropics, common thread is as follows: OP: "Help, I have bad anxiety every day, what should I take for it?" re: "Do you drink coffee?" OP: "Yes, about 4 cups a day." re: "Stop drinking coffee and come back in a week and tell us how you are doing." 1 week later. OP: "My anxiety is gone!!" Caffeine has negative side effects. For some people those side effects are really bad. Also caffei…

Just piggy-backing on this comment; a great book about sleep is Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker. The author does seem to fall into the "everything is a nail when all you have is a hammer" trap, but they do know a lot about sleep and the points in the above comment are backed up in the book with solid studies and references. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34466963-why-we-sleep

All my knowledge comes from reviewing sleep study data we did to train the Microsoft Band on sleep recognition. I'm not an expert by any means, just someone who got slapped in the face with a bunch of data that loudly screamed "THIS IS UNHEALTHY STOP DOING IT."

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Post by eurasiantiger »

acchow wrote: post #226
lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

I've found the secret to marijuana not taking away from your personal fulfillment is to limit it to the end of the day before sleeping which would already be spent consuming passively (such as watching TV).

From experience, getting high every night like that is a more problematic usage pattern than dosing steadily throughout the day and not getting especially high.

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Post by purplerabbit »

linuxftw wrote: post #217
akpa1 wrote: post #194

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Post by mtnGoat »

wooque wrote: post #133
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #117

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Counter point: I am 37 years old. I quit marijuana three or four months ago, but before that I was vaping marijuana nearly every day for four years. During that time I’ve achieved more success in my career than any other time. I think it was good for me to quit. I feel more alert and more productive now. More level and less tired. Maybe I would have been more successful without it, so perhaps you are right. But then,…

I would guess there are people who do cocaine every day without trouble. That doesn't mean everyone should do drugs. Most people can't handle it.

You dont have to guess, i can assure you these people exist. I know a few.

In fact some of the biggest names in tech and other industries are definately using drugs, its very possible to be a high achiever and be on drugs. in fact, it seems to be, that we really don't even call it addiction until it ruins your live, otherwise its just called "recreational". strange to me.

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Post by hestefisk »

mikestew wrote: post #49
hestefisk wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Downvote? Seriously, hn? It’s a fact that hashish intake can cause psychosis.

Saying it twice doesn't make it true. Just one URI, that's all anyone asks.

Another one in the Lancet: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221503661... “The ready availability of high potency cannabis in south London might have resulted in a greater proportion of first onset psychosis cases being attributed to cannabis use than in previous studies.”

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Post by RajT88 »

blowski wrote: post #218
marginalia_nu wrote: post #200

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I think this is largely the problem with mobile phones as well. Like you probably aren't going to go mad or get rectangular eyes or whatever, but you can just sort of sedate that sensation of boredom with scrolling reddit or facebook or whatever, which does all of bupkis for making us happy in the long term.

This is the same argument with all consuming vs producing. It's why there was a moral panic in the 1800s over Jane Austen style fiction, in the 1930s over radio, and so on. Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different to playing computer games 12 hours a day, doing endless marathons, watching sports, investing, or many similar activities.

As a (mostly former) distance runner. Running endless marathons is most certainly not harmless. You will face eventually injuries which affect you for the rest of your life.
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