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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by dfxm12 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:42 PM UTC

slg wrote: post #69

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

Why is this topic always brought up regarding weed, but nothing else? Should we make video games illegal because they can cause some people to live a lethargic and less productive life?

In their never ending goal to control kids' lives, a certain segment of parents know they've lost the war against D&D, comic books, rock n roll, TV, rap music, video games, etc. This is just the topic du jour.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by BobbyJo » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:43 PM UTC

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

This isn't really a danger of weed so much as a danger of the modern world.

I have given up smoking for long periods at several points in my life. Sometimes I filled the time productively, sometimes I filled it with TV, video games, the internet, etc. The modern world afford people many ways to be happy doing nothing, weed just happens to be one of several that are very good at the job.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by vsareto » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:44 PM UTC

mesofile wrote: post #119

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

I thought the way that South Park put it (in the voice of Randy Marsh) many years ago was just about perfect: “Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorists, but... Well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creat…

>If you smoke pot you may grow up to find out that you aren't good at anything

Hah, that's easily done without smoking pot

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by aerostable_slug » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:45 PM UTC

barbazoo wrote: post #163

murat124 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing with cannabis (with THC) is that it makes doing nothing OK so you may realize after some time of daily use that you have accepted doing nothing as a legit activity, contrarily when not high you'd either do something to utilize that time or may feel bad that you have nothing to do (bored). Cannabis has not much of physical addiction properties which is great yet one day you may find 10 years have got behind…

I can't really relate to this. There is a spectrum of how high you get. Maybe we should distinguish between getting super stoned, just sitting on the couch watching TV and smoking half a joint, going for a walk in nature and listen to music or cook or bake.

With psychedelics some refer to a "museum dose" — that amount you can use that would allow a person to visit an art museum and enjoy the experience. There are similarities with cannabis and other drugs (including alcohol of course).

That said, sometimes a little dab is enough to throw things off — fun story: I was practicing the Filipino Martial Arts and my teacher had a hit off a blunt some fellows practicing kinda-wushu in the same park were passing around. His ability to count out our drills went to hell, but in generally all other ways he was fine. It was very humorous at the time.

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Post by bun_at_work » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:45 PM UTC

com2kid wrote: post #178

aparticulate wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

cocaine is not weed though most people cannot do cocaine every day without trouble. Coffee? every day is fine different drugs have different danger

> Coffee? every day is fine /r/nootropics, common thread is as follows: OP: "Help, I have bad anxiety every day, what should I take for it?" re: "Do you drink coffee?" OP: "Yes, about 4 cups a day." re: "Stop drinking coffee and come back in a week and tell us how you are doing." 1 week later. OP: "My anxiety is gone!!" Caffeine has negative side effects. For some people those side effects are really bad. Also caffei…

Just piggy-backing on this comment; a great book about sleep is Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker. The author does seem to fall into the "everything is a nail when all you have is a hammer" trap, but they do know a lot about sleep and the points in the above comment are backed up in the book with solid studies and references.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34466963-why-we-sleep

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by acchow » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:46 PM UTC

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

I've found the secret to marijuana not taking away from your personal fulfillment is to limit it to the end of the day before sleeping which would already be spent consuming passively (such as watching TV).

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Post by eurasiantiger » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:47 PM UTC

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

As a person living with complex PTSD, my experience is the polar opposite of what is described in the parent comment.

I could not have relationships or work at all without medicinal cannabis, and there is really no difference between it and recreational cannabis in terms of efficacy, as long as the strain matches somewhat closely.

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Post by eej71 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:47 PM UTC

mesofile wrote: post #119

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

I thought the way that South Park put it (in the voice of Randy Marsh) many years ago was just about perfect: “Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorists, but... Well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creat…

This late 80's PSA style ad covers that perspective as well. This style of ads were easy to mock even in the 80s - but I always thought this one had a point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwQL9ZzJTX0

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Post by standardUser » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:47 PM UTC

redisman wrote: post #71

standardUser wrote: post #68

The way most Americans consume weed is basically a guaranteed overdose for anyone without a high tolerance. The regular "weed" we buy from dealers has been getting stronger for years because the consumers spending most of the money on weed demand it be strong. Once retail stores opened where I lived, I started buying weed with 10-15% THC instead of the standard 20-30%. It can feel like the difference between having a…

I’m sorry but why don’t you just put less weed in if it’s too strong?

Like I said, dosing becomes difficult because the drug is so potent. Even if you know you only want the smallest hit, it doesn't always work that way in practice (especially if you're not a frequent smoker and aren't familiar with using pipes and vapes, etc).

Plus, a lot of casual smokers think they're supposed to smoke the way they see in movies, or how they did in high school, which is usually not a single, carefully measure toke and then wait 20 minutes.

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Post by aerostable_slug » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:47 PM UTC

murat124 wrote: post #132

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

The thing with cannabis (with THC) is that it makes doing nothing OK so you may realize after some time of daily use that you have accepted doing nothing as a legit activity, contrarily when not high you'd either do something to utilize that time or may feel bad that you have nothing to do (bored). Cannabis has not much of physical addiction properties which is great yet one day you may find 10 years have got behind…

> one day you may find 10 years have got behind you

Is it a bad sign that I heard that in David Gilmour's and Richard Wright's voices?