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As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by spywaregorilla »

undersuit wrote: post #46
raxxorraxor wrote: post #39

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> The issue is that people adjust their consumption accordingly, just as with alcohol Eh, I don't believe that. Especially with weed there is not much to indicate dosage and the addiction is often to tobacco too which motivates people to smoke another joint. It is true that plants got more potent too. At least this is the case in Europe where weed is a bit different than in the US. But I guess the most immediate dang…

I track my cannabis consumption. Every time I buy I record the weight, price, date, and strain info. My daily consumption in grams per day averages out to 1.5g. Yet there are days when I'm consuming 3+ grams, and if you look at my spreadsheet you can see that more often then not those heavy days fall in a row. I'm not having days where I intake more THC, I'm having days where I consume more cannabis than normal from…

Great. Are you an outlier or a typical user?

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by murat124 »

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

The thing with cannabis (with THC) is that it makes doing nothing OK so you may realize after some time of daily use that you have accepted doing nothing as a legit activity, contrarily when not high you'd either do something to utilize that time or may feel bad that you have nothing to do (bored). Cannabis has not much of physical addiction properties which is great yet one day you may find 10 years have got behind you and you have done not much. Perhaps no one told you to stop consuming it daily or you have just drifted upon losing the handles on your life.

If you want to be a daily user, or already are, do try to still feel the need to do something when there's nothing to do and consume it responsibly. You probably will be fine health-wise but remember that doing-nothing-is-ok is not ok especially when it's become routine.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by wooque »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #117
lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

Counter point: I am 37 years old. I quit marijuana three or four months ago, but before that I was vaping marijuana nearly every day for four years. During that time I’ve achieved more success in my career than any other time. I think it was good for me to quit. I feel more alert and more productive now. More level and less tired. Maybe I would have been more successful without it, so perhaps you are right. But then,…

I would guess there are people who do cocaine every day without trouble. That doesn't mean everyone should do drugs. Most people can't handle it.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by spywaregorilla »

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #37
ginko wrote: post #10

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> He'd say that people can always cut them in half People who want a stronger buzz could always just take two..

The issue then becomes getting diabetes before getting high due to the crazy amounts of sugar in these edibles.

Is it really more than a can of coke?

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by mettamage »

Mo3 wrote: post #51
mettamage wrote: post #30

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Fellow Dutchie here, I completely agree with this. When I learned to smoke weed, which was relatively late in my life (late twenties), I got sick of weed. I wondered why smoking just a quarter of a joint was already too much. Then I realized I just need between 1 to 4 inhales and call it a day. The high is relatively light and quite nice :) > sourced from god knows where Well, that's the illegal part, isn't it? ;-) I…

Goededag, > sourced from god knows where > Well, that's the illegal part, isn't it? ;-) Ahh, I was referring to certain coffeeshops that carry rare strains that have been sourced from very remote places. But you're absolutely right as well of course. Not a fan of this setup either. My home country, Germany, is apparently planning on fully legalising cannabis - if you thought Dutch politicians are out of touch with re…

Holy hell, I'm sad to hear that :( I've seen it with Swedish people as well, when I was in Stockholm.

Whenever I smoke I feel as safe as drinking alcohol: i.e. nothing to fear from law enforcement if you don't go overboard with it.

I smoke once every 2 months or so, on average, 1 to 4 puffs, always in social settings. I'm 30+ years of age. My family has a history of drug addiction (all of them). What I've learned is that drugs can be healthily managed. If it couldn't I'd have gone down the gutter at the age of 28 since I started to experiment at 27.

My addictions at the moment are: YouTube, WhatsApp (friends), coffee, HN (to some extent)

So I'm not without my flaws, but the way society criminalizes drugs is beyond me. This is especially after having tried all the big names and realizing it's always a combination of: having a shitty life + having a social circle that heavily enables it + thinking you'll be fine and won't get addicted (I'm well aware of how all of them lull me into a false sense of security) + starting it at a very young age (all family members started around 14 years old with at least alcohol, less information means less protection).

One other way for me to not get addicted to them is to realize two things: (1) how being sober is awesome and being able to not be anxious; (2) how to use techniques like: meditation, exercise, Wim Hof Method, intensely listening to music, and dreaming in order to more or less recreate all the drug experiences I've had.

Guess what I started at a young age? Gaming and learning a lot of stuff at school. No wonder I love watching edutainment stuff at YouTube to the point where it is unhealthy.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by jamal-kumar »

jerf wrote: post #74
slg wrote: post #69

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Why is this topic always brought up regarding weed, but nothing else? Should we make video games illegal because they can cause some people to live a lethargic and less productive life?

It is brought up with other things. Perhaps you are extra sensitive about the weed topic for your own personal reasons. "Video games" is a particularly bad counter example, there's a lot of chatter around video game addictiveness and what it can do to vulnerable minds. There's always been some low-key discussion of it but the increasing prevalence of "loot boxes" and their corresponding mechanics have not just increa…

That's a gambling addiction you're mentioning here, something I feel is a LOT more insidious than smoking a joint on occasion

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by unethical_ban »

mandmandam wrote: post #13

There's quite a lot of subtle, and not so subtle slant in this article. If you didn't know the background and the other side of the story, you 'd walk away with a very warped impression of the scale and scope of this issue. > Christina Caron is a reporter for the Well section at The New York Times, covering mental health and the intersection of culture and health care. Weird - because I've gone back over years of her…

While I don't think anything in the article seems outright wrong - cannabis for teenagers and its increasing potency are things to be concerned about for parents and caretakers - I think it's fair to point out that the world is on fire and social media is also terrible for ~~young~~ all mental health.

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Post by aaaaaaaaata »

retrac wrote: post #115
slg wrote: post #101

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I wasn't trying to refute the idea. The idea is true. The question is whether we should worry about it. Using weed is a recreation activity. Most recreation activities will have a negative impact on your life if they are not done in moderation. I don't think that is necessarily a problem and the fact that this generally isn't discussed in other contexts might indicate that people are subconsciously using this an excu…

I can't speak for other people, but for me, it's not recreational. Not anymore. I need cannabis to simply feel normal. I feel high only when I'm sober, because sobriety is the atypical state. I can't sleep without it. I can't leave the house in the morning without it. After about 24 hours abstinence, I get debilitating headaches and start to vomit, presumably from the withdrawal. It's not fun. There's not much fun le…

> After about 24 hours abstinence, I get debilitating headaches and start to vomit, presumably from the withdrawal.

Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by spywaregorilla »

wooque wrote: post #133
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #117

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Counter point: I am 37 years old. I quit marijuana three or four months ago, but before that I was vaping marijuana nearly every day for four years. During that time I’ve achieved more success in my career than any other time. I think it was good for me to quit. I feel more alert and more productive now. More level and less tired. Maybe I would have been more successful without it, so perhaps you are right. But then,…

I would guess there are people who do cocaine every day without trouble. That doesn't mean everyone should do drugs. Most people can't handle it.

Most people can handle it. But that still doesn't mean everyone should do drugs.

Re: As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by aparticulate »

wooque wrote: post #133
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #117

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Counter point: I am 37 years old. I quit marijuana three or four months ago, but before that I was vaping marijuana nearly every day for four years. During that time I’ve achieved more success in my career than any other time. I think it was good for me to quit. I feel more alert and more productive now. More level and less tired. Maybe I would have been more successful without it, so perhaps you are right. But then,…

I would guess there are people who do cocaine every day without trouble. That doesn't mean everyone should do drugs. Most people can't handle it.

cocaine is not weed though

most people cannot do cocaine every day without trouble. Coffee? every day is fine

different drugs have different danger

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