A subreddit dedicated to busting shoplifters

Post by 0des » Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 10:34 PM UTC

colpabar wrote: post #89

thrway3344444 wrote: post #74

I'm historically a very liberal San Francisco resident. But I'm finding it really hard to understand the amount of shoplifting going on at my local Walgreens (Mission and 30th). I visit the Walgreens about once a week mostly for diapers and covid test kits. I go at various times of day. About 1 in 4 times I'm there I've witnessed shoplifting. Mostly groups of teens and, in my uninformed assessment, not struggling fin…

>They seem to be doing it for the thrill. Like a sport. I will admit that I sometimes steal candy/snacks from convenience stores for this exact reason. There is a very real thrill involved in getting away with something, and I've (mostly jokingly) considered going to SF just to steal things from convenience stores. It really seems like a no brainer why this is happening more often. If, as a child, your parents said "…

Post by pseudo0 » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 12:07 AM UTC

slg wrote: post #82

unreal37 wrote: post #67

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It might be a red flag. But that can't be some roadblock to entering the industry. People get into careers for all sorts of reasons. A paycheck. The thrill of succeeding at their job. The thrill of being the best in the business. You can't just exclude those people from that career and focus on people "the goals of the business". Personal goals are better drivers to excellence than business goals.

The problem is when their personal goals conflict with both the business's and society's goals. Think of it like a manager who announces "I love bossing people around, that is why I'm in the industry." Sure, that is part of the job, a person in that role shouldn't have an issue with it, but someone who says that is the reason they are doing the job is directly telling you they are unfit for the job.

Post by woleium » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 12:40 AM UTC

mikkergp wrote: post #24

cmckn wrote: post #2

Article kind of bums me out. One loss prevention officer says: > He finds the environment of loss prevention thrilling and takes pride in the training he’s received to track down and apprehend shoplifters. “That’s a huge adrenaline rush,” he says. “I think that’s a major factor in why people are in this field.” But also says: > “I don’t do this because I think shoplifting is wrong,” he says. “If I’m perfectly honest,…

One of the best teachers I had in college was a criminal justice counselor. And the job of criminal justice counseling isn't like other jobs in psychology, sure some of your job is to help the convicts, but a lot of the convicts don't want help or are actively hostile to your help, but part of your job is to help the state. Either way someone in the class asked how he can do the job if "helping people" wasn't more co…

Post by elicash » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 12:48 AM UTC

josephcsible wrote: post #126

elicash wrote: post #73

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The full quote: > Although McLeod enjoys his job, he knows it’s one that’s frowned upon by many. “A lot of people see that a homeless person got arrested for stealing a candy bar. They’re hungry, right?” he says. “A lot of people are like, ‘How, morally, can you do this job?’” I still think this is a perfectly moral (and important!) job. And it's the role of our justice system to define what punishments should be whe…

> The "man steals a loaf of bread to feed his starving family" thing is a pretty classic ethical dilemma. But that's also an insignificant fraction of shoplifting cases. Changing our overall policy based on it would be like legalizing running red lights because once in a while people are rushing someone to the hospital.

Post by feet » Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 12:54 AM UTC

feet wrote: post #128

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #98

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> at their lowest point in our society and not let them have comforts such as alcohol that the rich enjoy on a daily basis. A lot of them are in the position they are in now due to drugs and booze. Let's not conflate those homeless for economic reasons with the ones that just burned all their bridges via substance abuse. > absolutely fucking horrible compared to what most experience in the US and other OECD nations I…

>A lot of them are in the position they are in now due to drugs and booze Quite simply this is false. Mental health issues generally lead to addiction, in nearly all cases its a dual diagnosis situation with mental health issues and substance abuse which is usually due to the mental health issues. These people are just trying to cope with their daily existence and all the rich people are constantly shitting on them,…