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My reaction to this is that it's an effort to keep users within the "walled garden" of Twitter, which is not the best thing for those that write. Recall the story with Medium - yes, you get broader reach with less effort, but at the cost of giving up control of your content. I know that I am talking with an overly developer-focused lens (a-la "you can reimplement Dropbox in a weekend"), but self-hosting blogs outside…

With the "walled garden" comment, I'm wondering - nowadays, all sorts of discourse seems to depend on these types of proprietary services/platforms, that employ armies of engineers to keep them running, develop new features, etc. Attempts to make things decentralized all seem to be aggregating into central controls, i.e. "Web3/crypto" -> coinbase, kraken, etc Why aren't older decentralized "services" protocols being…

> Attempts to make things decentralized all seem to be aggregating into central controls, i.e. "Web3/crypto" -> coinbase, kraken, etc

Coinbase and Kraken are not "central controls" as you not only can use either and they are exactly fully interchangeable, but you can use any number of other similar services--or even deal directly with another user and keep your credentials locally--all of which are exactly fully interchangeable.

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post #4

I welcome this. I always hated the long multi-tweet essays and have often just given up on reading them, especially when I'm not logged in I can't even make it to the end before twitter blocks me from scrolling further. As of now it doesn't look like you can reply to a note with another note? That might go a long way for improving debate and discussion.

Well, the first 3 links from the twitter annoucement gives a "page not found". Seems that they avoided starting with the right foot.

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#145
Notes should have the back button you get when you use a thread. First time I've used browser back button on twitter in a while.

Re: Twitter Notes

#146
Very odd of them to launch this without support in apps. The mobile view doesn't even load for me, just says that the content can't be found.

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post #111
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter doesn't care about a pair of anonynmous eyeballs not visiting their site anymore. It's not Google. Twitter's ad targeting depends on knowing what a user looks at, and how their network of connections/follows lines up with other user segments.

>> Twitter's ad targeting depends on knowing what a user looks at But they can track which tweets are being clicked, the IP of the person and a whole bunch of things even when you're not logged in. >> and how their network of connections/follows But that's the problem right there. If you force people to create an account to read tweets, they might do so but they won't follow anybody or follow very few people and twee…

> I just don't think it's feasible to expect a significant number of people (like say # of users on Facebook) to be tweeting regularly.

The probability that somebody with a Twitter account tweets is infinitely higher than that somebody without a Twitter account tweets.

Re: Twitter Notes

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post #76

My reaction to this is that it's an effort to keep users within the "walled garden" of Twitter, which is not the best thing for those that write. Recall the story with Medium - yes, you get broader reach with less effort, but at the cost of giving up control of your content. I know that I am talking with an overly developer-focused lens (a-la "you can reimplement Dropbox in a weekend"), but self-hosting blogs outside…

What's wrong with linking to your blog? Twitter was once explained to me as short form blogging which I thought at the time was absurd but I kind of get it now.

The problem is when you try to be all things to all people you fail. I'd so much like someone like Elon Musk to take over Twitter. In the case of Musk I trust his judgement over the team running Twitter now. Can you imagine a group of two dozen people working a year trying to reinvent blogging? Knowing Twitter, sadly I can.

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#149
post #73

Honestly probably too little too late. How they didn't try to have a long form product to compete with Substack (especially) and Medium is astonishing. I've long held that Twitter engineers, etc seem disconnected from their own user base.

Too little too late? If they do a better job than substack or medium they can probably take marketshare. Instead of innovating on it they can emulate the effective products and build on top of it. It's like saying instagram's videos were too late to tik tok. It effectively stopped the hemorrhaging and kept market share.

Not really comparable at all. Instagram already had videos and stories. Twitter has had no form of long form at all. Even still Instagram user growth is in the tank. Based on this product demo in the gif, it won't be competing with Substack or Medium anytime soon.

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post #147
post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Twitter's ad targeting depends on knowing what a user looks at But they can track which tweets are being clicked, the IP of the person and a whole bunch of things even when you're not logged in. >> and how their network of connections/follows But that's the problem right there. If you force people to create an account to read tweets, they might do so but they won't follow anybody or follow very few people and twee…

> I just don't think it's feasible to expect a significant number of people (like say # of users on Facebook) to be tweeting regularly. The probability that somebody with a Twitter account tweets is infinitely higher than that somebody without a Twitter account tweets.

Im pretty sure that the majority of twitter users has never posted a tweet, think 80/20 rule.

See this link, although its not exactly what im looking for: https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/new-study-shows-that-2...

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