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Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by chiefalchemist »

james_pm wrote: post #3

Please give me more options like this in North America. I'd love something like this as the urban run-around to do quick errands that can't be done on foot or via transit. Something under $20K with enough range for a day of driving around. Even better, make it a shared vehicle and I'll just pay a membership to grab one from a lot around the corner for a few hours.

You're not alone. I thought we'd be there by now. But at this point in the USA the tipping point seems to be having short distance autonomous mode such that you can order a car and it will deliver itself to your door.

That said, it's also telling the fed gov has made little to no effort to promote such an idea. Thanks Big Oil?

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by chroma »

james_pm wrote: post #3

Please give me more options like this in North America. I'd love something like this as the urban run-around to do quick errands that can't be done on foot or via transit. Something under $20K with enough range for a day of driving around. Even better, make it a shared vehicle and I'll just pay a membership to grab one from a lot around the corner for a few hours.

US laws prevent this car from being sold to the masses. The vehicle lacks airbags, anti-lock brakes, and electronic stability control. I also doubt it would pass crash tests.

You might be able sell it as a motorcycle, but then passengers would be required to wear helmets and the driver would need a motorcycle endorsement on their license. Another option would be to sell it as an ATV, but states tend to restrict ATV usage on public roads.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by justin66 »

chollida1 wrote: post #4

Neat to see. I think the future of these cars will be alot like ARM chips. One company, probably foxconn, will build reference designs and individual companies will license those designs and tweak them, mostly on the interior and have foxconn either manufacture the entire thing or build the chassis/battery pack and let another company build the body/interior. That way you can skip the Rnd Process and just require a f…

This is the present, not the future. A very high percentage of the parts of the Chevy Bolt were manufactured by LG Chem as part of an LG Chem reference design. (which worked out great)

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by rasz »

gzalo wrote: post #7

As an Argentinean, we can get it for around USD 9.5k, but it lacks many basic features. It can't even go faster than 40 miles per hour / 65 km/h, so it can't really drive on freeways. It doesn't even have a trunk, so not really useful for groceries either (see https://youtu.be/B5_A2F_cDNI?t=139 ) No airbags either, but at those speeds it's probably not as useful (at least that's what they imply in its FAQs). Remember…

>copy of a chinese "Today Sunshine M1"

copy as in someone in Argentina Reverse engineered Chinese EV and is manufacturing it? or rebadge of Chinese made car while claiming to be "100% Argentine car" like that scam https://www.thelocal.se/20220129/hyped-swedish-car-start-up-...

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by zdragnar »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #19
gzalo wrote: post #7

As an Argentinean, we can get it for around USD 9.5k, but it lacks many basic features. It can't even go faster than 40 miles per hour / 65 km/h, so it can't really drive on freeways. It doesn't even have a trunk, so not really useful for groceries either (see https://youtu.be/B5_A2F_cDNI?t=139 ) No airbags either, but at those speeds it's probably not as useful (at least that's what they imply in its FAQs). Remember…

> It doesn't even have a trunk, so not really useful for groceries either Is this usually a limiting factor for people? I've always put my groceries on the back seats or back floor, even if I have a trunk.

It depends on how large a family you are shopping for, and if you need to bring little kids with you when you go. A family trip without a trunk means no room at all for groceries.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by catawbasam »

chroma wrote: post #22
james_pm wrote: post #3

Please give me more options like this in North America. I'd love something like this as the urban run-around to do quick errands that can't be done on foot or via transit. Something under $20K with enough range for a day of driving around. Even better, make it a shared vehicle and I'll just pay a membership to grab one from a lot around the corner for a few hours.

US laws prevent this car from being sold to the masses. The vehicle lacks airbags, anti-lock brakes, and electronic stability control. I also doubt it would pass crash tests. You might be able sell it as a motorcycle, but then passengers would be required to wear helmets and the driver would need a motorcycle endorsement on their license. Another option would be to sell it as an ATV, but states tend to restrict ATV u…

It would meet a need in the US if restricted to low-speed roads, eg for older drivers. Maybe young drivers and low-income people too. At low speed you just don't need a lot of the fancy stuff.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by adolfojp »

geodel wrote: post #6
trhway wrote: post #2

may be i'm spoiled by US market, yet it looks like a pretty high price for pretty underwhelming specs: "The basic edition costs around USD $16,500 and you’ll pay around $18,250 if you want air conditioning. ... “TITO” is a 2.83 meter long, three-door urban car, with enough space for four people. It has a 4.5 kWh powered electric motor which receives its energy from a lithium battery with an eight kWh capacity. "

This car is a beaut. So I think price is for fine craftsmanship and not purely on specs.

What makes you think this car has "fine craftmanship"?

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by pcardoso »

chollida1 wrote: post #4

Neat to see. I think the future of these cars will be alot like ARM chips. One company, probably foxconn, will build reference designs and individual companies will license those designs and tweak them, mostly on the interior and have foxconn either manufacture the entire thing or build the chassis/battery pack and let another company build the body/interior. That way you can skip the Rnd Process and just require a f…

This was suggested by Frederic at this blog post https://mondaynote.com/evs-the-manufacturing-revolution-40a7...

This is a blog by Frederic Filloux and Jean-Louis Gassee of Apple/BeOS fame.

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