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Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#81
post #27

The comments in this thread and this article is making me want to read HN less. (What a crazy incorrect take for most of the population.)

The reversion to the mean here just reminds me of stuff I would read on 4chan back in the day as a high school student.

Many of my friends in those environments grew up, figured out how to navigate society a bit better, and stopped saying this kind of stuff. But these threads are a reminder that loads of people didn’t.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#82
post #21

Population implosion is going to be the biggest problem of our lives. It is one of those issues that creeps up progressively (like Global Warming), but will have cataclysmic impacts. Sex is a precursor to relationships and kids, if people don't have sex... Imagine 80% of the population is elderly and retired (or want to be retired) - that is where the world is heading by the end of the century. From 2018: https://www…

I am very, very excited about this. We are absolutely culpable for the absolute havoc we have wrought on the environment. Mindless consumption and endless growth cannot continue forever.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#83
Can this be quantified somehow? Show some evidence people in some place that has been studied are having sex less often now or in the recent past compared to some more distant past?

I spent about 20 minutes trying to find some series of historical surveys somewhere, and meanwhile 65 comments popped up with their own personal beliefs on why people are having less sex, but none of those comments and the article itself don't present any actual evidence that people are having less sex. What they do show is people, at least in the US and most OECD nations, are having fewer lifetime children. But that is clearly explainable by widespread availability and use of contraceptives and protected sex or even by the increasing popularity of anal sex. It doesn't require that people not have sex at all.

I'm not saying this claim is wrong necessarily, but if this is going to be discussed, shouldn't we have some evidence allowing us to quantify to what extent there has actually been a decrease, where this has happened, and over what span of time it has happened?

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#84
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually meant the people, not banks. Banks exacerbate the problem, but you don't need to hold everyone to the same standards as 30 years ago. People in family homes in Southern Europe date, too. Many Japanese people get married before they leave the parental home. This was pretty standard in most of Europe and America a little less than a century ago. >The awful part of all this is that young people blame women. I…

The Japanese buy and large aren't having sex, so I'd disagree with you that they're a good example of women having lower standards. Their desire for men to have things and a stable life is probably biological and immutable. You can see their role as messengers of the truth pretty often. I saw this one video that I thought was pretty great where a group of three women were out. The videographer/interviewer had the two…

>The Japanese buy and large aren't having sex, so I'd disagree with you that they're a good example of women having lower standards.

This is a phenomenon in most of young generation US and EU too. Both housing and the ability to get on with someone are far cheaper and easier in Tokyo in particular, than most metropolises in the developed world. If that doesn't tell you there's more going on than "just your own place bro", I don't know what will. If women are continuously taught and telling each other that a guy must have their own place or they are bad / deadbeat, the entire thing becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Given our species as a whole has been procreating with less for most of our existence, I'm more eager to place my bets it's a cultural phenomenon rather than "biologically hardwired".

>You can see their role as messengers of the truth pretty often.

You can just as well say men are "messengers of truth" because they don't want to marry single moms. The only thing you're showing is that their words mean jack compared to their actions, as is the case with every human being under the sun.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#85
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Entertainment has entered a tyranny of choice. I see it personally. I can watch nearly every show and movie that was ever created but I still flip through Netflix and RT endlessly, often times choosing not to watch anything. When I was younger I would just watch Seinfeld re-runs, with commercials and all. Am I more "entertained" today than I was when I was growing up? I'm not convinced. The weirdest thing is I don't…

I am genuinely unsure, and had to google it. Is RT supposed to be the abbreviation for Rotten Tomatoes?

Yes. A popular way to see what shows reviewers and audiences like most.

If you Google “rt ” you will get the rating too.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#86
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Entertainment has entered a tyranny of choice. I see it personally. I can watch nearly every show and movie that was ever created but I still flip through Netflix and RT endlessly, often times choosing not to watch anything. When I was younger I would just watch Seinfeld re-runs, with commercials and all. Am I more "entertained" today than I was when I was growing up? I'm not convinced. The weirdest thing is I don't…

If you became that fly, you’d soon wish to be squashed rather than listen to adolescent chitchat.

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Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#87
Some extent, a society that grows probably looks like a society of growth along many aspects. That means down to the mindsets of populace. But just age characteristics will tell you the population characteristics skew towards the elderly for the next couple to few decades. And at least in the US those same people seem to have a stranglehold on all forms of political process. That’s not what a vibrant, growing society looks like.

Edit-consider the decades that led to the baby booming period of the 50s-60s. The world had ended WWII on the anti-fascist/pro-democracy side. And a Cold War started over the path the world would take. There were housing programs and I build affordable housing for the war vets. Energy was cheap and nuclear would eventually make metering it unneeded-more indicative of mindset than reality of course.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#88
post #21

Population implosion is going to be the biggest problem of our lives. It is one of those issues that creeps up progressively (like Global Warming), but will have cataclysmic impacts. Sex is a precursor to relationships and kids, if people don't have sex... Imagine 80% of the population is elderly and retired (or want to be retired) - that is where the world is heading by the end of the century. From 2018: https://www…

Population explosion would also be the biggest problem of our life since we only have finite resources. We can't really win this one.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#90
post #21

Population implosion is going to be the biggest problem of our lives. It is one of those issues that creeps up progressively (like Global Warming), but will have cataclysmic impacts. Sex is a precursor to relationships and kids, if people don't have sex... Imagine 80% of the population is elderly and retired (or want to be retired) - that is where the world is heading by the end of the century. From 2018: https://www…

An early litmus test for this is to look at college admission counts. Universities are very concerned right now over projected admissions from now through 2025.

There’s simply fewer high school graduates available, so enrollment counts will go down and universities will have to fight harder or lower admission requirements to keep the same number of students year over year.

It could also be that young people today simply don’t want to pay the high cost of college, and honestly I get that. But even cheaper or budget colleges are seeing enrollment dips.

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