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Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by jbrun »

Population implosion is going to be the biggest problem of our lives. It is one of those issues that creeps up progressively (like Global Warming), but will have cataclysmic impacts. Sex is a precursor to relationships and kids, if people don't have sex...

Imagine 80% of the population is elderly and retired (or want to be retired) - that is where the world is heading by the end of the century.

From 2018: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex...

From 2022: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex...

Empty Planet: https://www.amazon.ca/Empty-Planet-Global-Population-Decline...

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by aquadoggy »

“It's a fact...that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization . Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It's what's known as 'the law of the market'...Economic liberalism is an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society. Sexual liberalism is likewise an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society.” ― Michel Houellebecq, Whatever

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by bko »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #3

I don't think tech or porn is the main culprit. It's that people now have way more entertainment options other than sex. Of course, a lot for those entertainment options are being driven by tech. Back in my dad's days, they were poor so the only entertainment options in their free time was drinking cheap home made alcohol, dancing and sex, while now we have gaming, Netflix, tic-tok, porn, traveling to the infinite In…

Entertainment has entered a tyranny of choice. I see it personally. I can watch nearly every show and movie that was ever created but I still flip through Netflix and RT endlessly, often times choosing not to watch anything. When I was younger I would just watch Seinfeld re-runs, with commercials and all. Am I more "entertained" today than I was when I was growing up? I'm not convinced.

The weirdest thing is I don't remember what I used to talk to my friends about when I was in high school. We didn't have much shared media to talk about (e.g. periodic TV shows people obsess about today). None of us so much picked up a newspaper at the time so current events were out. None of us had that many specific interests and the interests we had weren't shared. But somehow we spent hours talking about something. I wish I could be a fly on the wall of my prom table to just take in what was discussed.

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Post by Markoff »

first sentence: "With every fetish having a dedicated subreddit and every vagina a Gwyneth Paltrow candle scent, it's hard to believe sex isn't the most popular of all the cardinal sins..."

TIL sex is cardinal sin.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by danuker »

usrn wrote: post #18
BlargMcLarg wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That, and most are still holding people in their 20s to the same standards as generations able to start a family with the credentials of Homer Simpson.

"People" meaning banks really. The games with credit are effectively driving the housing shortage by making buying the small number of already built homes effectively more affordable than building new ones in the massive amount of permissibly zoned empty space we have. We're only exacerbating it by bringing in tons of legal and illegal immigrants and having the government pay for their housing. It's not surprising th…

> already built homes effectively more affordable than building new ones

The reason people buy instead of build is that the house is already there, whereas building anew takes a lot of time.

As interest rates grow, it becomes more expensive to do so, and waiting starts paying off.

But inflation is still high in spite of the high interest rates. And then, maybe the central banks will overshoot the interest rate, which will lead to another crash...

Other than that, living in a walkable area has its advantages, and codes are much stricter in high densities, so you can't build.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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Post by BlargMcLarg »

usrn wrote: post #18
BlargMcLarg wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That, and most are still holding people in their 20s to the same standards as generations able to start a family with the credentials of Homer Simpson.

"People" meaning banks really. The games with credit are effectively driving the housing shortage by making buying the small number of already built homes effectively more affordable than building new ones in the massive amount of permissibly zoned empty space we have. We're only exacerbating it by bringing in tons of legal and illegal immigrants and having the government pay for their housing. It's not surprising th…

I actually meant the people, not banks. Banks exacerbate the problem, but you don't need to hold everyone to the same standards as 30 years ago. People in family homes in Southern Europe date, too. Many Japanese people get married before they leave the parental home. This was pretty standard in most of Europe and America a little less than a century ago.

>The awful part of all this is that young people blame women.

I don't want to blame women in particular, but from personal anecdotes, women in particular place huge importance on a guy having his own car and place, despite both being massive wastes of money here and actively hurting one's ability to get housing later. The opposite, not so much. This in a country where even rent is now mostly a dual-income market.

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