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Sex is going out of fashion?

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Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#12
There are three things that are lacking from the article completely as a reason for lower sexual activity: a lack of time, a place and money:

- With people working ridiculous overtimes, "double shifts" or working two jobs just to make ends meet, there is simply no time to maintain a relationship. That one is offset a bit by Tinder and other "casual sex" opportunities, but nevertheless it's going to impact people.

- With rents being ridiculously high, a majority of young adults are forced to live at their parents', a record number not seen in many decades. And without one's own place, it's hard to even enter a relationship, much less have sex.

- to expand on that point, maintaining a relationship or having casual sex requires money, which a lot of people simply don't have available. Cinema tickets, going eating out to a restaurant, other joint activities... you get the drift, no money means no dates means no sex.

- Especially for the US: as sex can result in children, even when using condoms, the pill or IUDs, many women elect to abstain from sexual activity entirely since the access to abortion is under ever more and more attacks.

- Additionally, the cost of giving birth [2] and raising a child [3] is prohibitively expensive for many people, further reducing the amount of people willing to search for a partner in the first place.

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/04/a-majority-...

[2] https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-hav...

[3] https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2017/01/13/cost-raising-chil...

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#13
post #5

I don't think tech or porn is the main culprit. It's that people now have way more entertainment options other than sex. Of course, a lot for those entertainment options are being driven by tech. Back in my dad's days, they were poor so the only entertainment options in their free time was drinking cheap home made alcohol, dancing and sex, while now we have gaming, Netflix, tic-tok, porn, traveling to the infinite In…

It's because people in their 20s are living with their parents and don't want to have sex in the park. When I was younger I wanted it badly enough that I did stupid things like that but I can understand why people like me are in a tiny minority.

That, and most are still holding people in their 20s to the same standards as generations able to start a family with the credentials of Homer Simpson.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#14
Articles like this are often mostly focused on the male side of cisgendered male-female relationships. Have things not changed for women? Or how about among other types of people? Is gay sex going out of fashion too?

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#15
post #6

a related long read: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/23121356-your-brain-o... I thought it was a decent book, seemed to cite a good number of sources, but I'm no scientician. But Gary makes a pretty rational argument -- If you're finding yourself in a certain situation[1], without a known underlying medical cause (as ruled out by a doctor), then cutting out porn never killed anyone, and anecdotally has cured m…

Gary Wilson was a scientific fraud: https://medium.com/@nicole.prause/gary-wilson-was-a-known-sc...

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because people in their 20s are living with their parents and don't want to have sex in the park. When I was younger I wanted it badly enough that I did stupid things like that but I can understand why people like me are in a tiny minority.

That, and most are still holding people in their 20s to the same standards as generations able to start a family with the credentials of Homer Simpson.

"People" meaning banks really. The games with credit are effectively driving the housing shortage by making buying the small number of already built homes effectively more affordable than building new ones in the massive amount of permissibly zoned empty space we have. We're only exacerbating it by bringing in tons of legal and illegal immigrants and having the government pay for their housing. It's not surprising there's a conspiracy theory about intentional replacement of the native population with that going on.

Combine that with the value extraction from rent/debt (everyone has to own a car and since they probably can't afford to just buy one most are in debt over it) and no one can afford sex.

The awful part of all this is that young people blame women. Women are just the messengers.

Re: Sex is going out of fashion?

#20

I don't think tech or porn is the main culprit. It's that people now have way more entertainment options other than sex. Of course, a lot for those entertainment options are being driven by tech. Back in my dad's days, they were poor so the only entertainment options in their free time was drinking cheap home made alcohol, dancing and sex, while now we have gaming, Netflix, tic-tok, porn, traveling to the infinite In…

I do wonder if the act of dating has gotten substantially less fun than it was in the past. At least if you go to a bar/concert/activity you may have fun and make plutonic friends, messaging random people on a dating site seems much more depressing.
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