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Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Kind of ironic, there was a big "cloudflare is bad and a central point of failure" article on the front page just a couple days ago. Found it, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31801947 edit: Not that I necessarily agree with the article even in light of there being an outage, cloudflare has been pretty good for us. Just thought it was interesting.

Brace yourself for a lot more of those kinds of articles in the next few days.

I welcome them. Perhaps these outages stop all people rushing to host their single HTML page blog through them.

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Wouldn't this expose the origin IPs to attack?

Yes, but I'd wager that most sites experience cloudflare outages more often than they experience bona fide attacks.

You say that, but there's tons of automated attempts doing the rounds on everything directly connected to the internet; centralized providers like Cloudflare can detect and prevent these patterns, whereas you need to be on the ball yourself if you have a service directly open to the internet. Exploits are exploited quickly, and while I make no assumptions about your particular website / application, a lot cannot push an update on short notice.

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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In a discussion about using a CDN, it's implicit that it represents an addition to "professional" hosting with servers in a well managed data center that has, at least, redundant high-bandwidth network connections, not to a domestic network connection. Note that your home network could be good enough for a personal web site that nobody pays you to respect a SLA on.

Soooo... Cloudflare?

No, we're talking about a colocation provider, or a leased dedicated server provider. I went with OVHcloud US for my latest deployment. HN is at m5hosting.com.

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Of course it is... Typical Cloudflare.

Imagine having to pay for a service

Imagine having to pay for a service... at enterprise prices.

This is not really an extra or a nice-to-have, it might be more a hostage situation.

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Yes, not worldwide but a lot of places. Problem with our backbone. We know what. Rollbacks etc. happening. Bring it back up in chunks. Should be back up everywhere.

CF SRE team need to rethink their published SLA of 100%. This is not reasonable. https://www.cloudflare.com/business-sla/

that just means they're willing to pay for the marketing number, not that they will actually achieve it

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Yes, not worldwide but a lot of places. Problem with our backbone. We know what. Rollbacks etc. happening. Bring it back up in chunks. Should be back up everywhere.

CF SRE team need to rethink their published SLA of 100%. This is not reasonable. https://www.cloudflare.com/business-sla/

Yep, I'd promise 99.95 at a stretch, never 100%.

They are not being honest with themselves here

Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage

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Of course it is... Typical Cloudflare.

Imagine having to pay for a service

Cloudflare's pricing has issues.

My company was paying $20 a month. We were heavily depended on CF, we'd have been happy to pay more.

But... the one feature we wanted was for our accounts team to have their own login so the ops team didn't have to download invoices every month. Nope, that one feature required an enterprise plan which they quoted $4,000 a month for.

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