Uh, that’s not good. The negatives of centralisation really smack you in the face. I’ll start moving my sites away from Cloudflare soon. Not because it’s bad — in fact it has been amazing, but rather to decentralise.
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Are there places to host an independent bare-metal box where the internet provider for that box is more reliable than cloudflare?
We’ve been on Hetzner for several years now. So far the only outages we had were from us moving servers (yeah, we don’t have high availability or load balancing, just a single beefy dedicated server). So, yes?
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Agreed- couldn’t figure out what was going on… finally checked here and - ah now I can sleep
Cloudflare going down is one of the things which keeps me awake, My main complaint about Cloudflare is that they are very good at everything they offer that we've become reliant on them for everything.
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I'm talking about this as an option for users like me, that don't have an attack surface, but need the global performance gains of CF.
Probably not many users who need the performance and can handle unexpected failover. There would also be the issue of setting the policy defaults effectively. Most users wouldn’t benefit from this footgun. If you’re serious, you could probably automate this right now with your DNS provider and uptime monitoring.
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CLoudflare just offer great services. Its straight up fact that even their free model is extremely generous. There is no big conspiracy to 'take over the internet' but when the product is good, the product is good.
> There is no big conspiracy CloudFlare should be run by the CIA or something - asthonishing MITM opportunities. The only clear sign the CIA is not deeply involved is that CloudFlare is far too competent.
I trust that the current leadership might not do something evil, but they are publicly traded. At some point a group of investors are going to figure out that merging Cloudflare with an advertising network would create a level of user targeting that Google and Facebook could never dream of.
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#287It's time to start discussing a fail-open option for us CF users. Most of my sites are using CF for global performance rather than DDoS protection and security. I'd be fine with them changing DNS to point to the origin (or any other user defined IPs) in case of issues (even if it would take hours to return to normal). This is also important for countries with limited connectivity to the Internet, if the PoP in that c…
Re: Cloudflare had a partial outage
#288It's time to start discussing a fail-open option for us CF users. Most of my sites are using CF for global performance rather than DDoS protection and security. I'd be fine with them changing DNS to point to the origin (or any other user defined IPs) in case of issues (even if it would take hours to return to normal). This is also important for countries with limited connectivity to the Internet, if the PoP in that c…
You can implement your own DNS server that CNAMEs to Cloudflare and falls back to origin IP when there is a problem with Cloudflare. I think a downstream Cloudflare provider could provide such services if they desire.