All shopify based stores are down
Yep - I have a Shopify app that uses Cloudflare, and was just about to panic when I saw this post.
Turns out no one will notice, as all of Shopify is down anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Cloudflare had a partial outage
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Just wanted to also reiterate how thankful I am that you took your time to let us know. It speaks volumes.
Agreed- couldn’t figure out what was going on… finally checked here and - ah now I can sleep
Cloudflare going down is one of the things which keeps me awake, My main complaint about Cloudflare is that they are very good at everything they offer that we've become reliant on them for everything.
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#213At times like this and the big Fastly outage roughly a year ago, choosing to host on a simple, independent bare-metal box doesn't seem like such a bad strategy (as long as one has backups for disaster recovery, of course). Sure, other things can cause downtime in that kind of infrastructure, but at least my service isn't likely to be taken offline by someone else's configuration error or deployment gone wrong.
Are there places to host an independent bare-metal box where the internet provider for that box is more reliable than cloudflare?
Your box running your web server is far less complicated than using a CDN and worrying about countless additional points of failure. Network problems are only a minor risk.
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What is your setup to where you are isolated from "other person making a mistake"? Even if you're a box in a colocated datacenter you're still able to get knocked off the net from some maintenance on the surrounding pipes. Hell, hosting your own box doesn't cause Comcast DNS issues to not knock off a bunch of people either. I do think there is some holistic overview of hosting stuff on the internet, where you could l…
Fair point. Still, based on my anecdotal experience using leased dedicated servers, mistakes at that networking layer seem to happen less often than mistakes that take AWS us-east-1 or one of the big CDNs offline.
> mistakes at that networking layer seem to happen less often than mistakes that take AWS us-east-1 or one of the big CDNs offline
Not in my experience. Things break all the time, the difference is nobody notices because either the colocating ISP is too small or we are.
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#215Peep, anyone there?
Wow, for me it looked like the world had gone mad. This is a reminder to not only rely on 1.1.1.1 for DNS resolution in PiHole.
I host most of my services locally, but ironically could not connect to my own homelab. I use a dedicated domain with DynDNS and did not configure the network and DNS without reliance on external DNS. Surely it's infinitely more likely for me to make a mistake, right?
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I'm on Linode. Linode is down because Cloudflare is down. Can't login to their control panel, etc. You'd need to go fully independent and roll your own, with zero dependencies, to really make this work.
Isn't linode owned by Akamai now?
imo it's messed up that they haven't rebuilt their network infrastructure in the four months since they got acquired
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#217Back up now as of about 5 min ago.
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CLoudflare just offer great services. Its straight up fact that even their free model is extremely generous. There is no big conspiracy to 'take over the internet' but when the product is good, the product is good.
Not a 'big conspiracy'. It's the business model, isn't it? Or isn't CF going for the biggest marketshare and maximizing profits on that, like all the others?
It's certainly any business' model to grow as big as possible, but it's a hard business model to implement so competition is hard to find. I just can't blame CF for that imo.
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#220This should hopefully drive home the idea of why HN shouldn't be cheering on Cloudflare's slow takeover of the internet.
CLoudflare just offer great services. Its straight up fact that even their free model is extremely generous. There is no big conspiracy to 'take over the internet' but when the product is good, the product is good.
This is what is commonly called "golden handcuffs".
Of course they offer a great product, that's how you create a monopoly.