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Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by aiisjustanif »

xapata wrote: post #265
wgjordan wrote: post #211

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>> They didn't actually try any of the products themselves (they admitted as much in the article). > I’m going to dissent here on this thread because I’m not seeing any references. OK, here's one such reference in "The Best Baby Formula" [1]: > We didn’t do any testing for this guide, because babies have minds of their own, and it would be impossible to control for all of the variables that might make a baby prefer o…

Testing is different from research.

Tell that to the person I replied to…

> a Wirecutter article and the research was essentially just what they themselves pieced together from online sources. They didn't actually try any of the products themselves.

They are saying research is trying the product aka testing…

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by 9935c101ab17a66 »

bradlys wrote: post #484
fartcannon wrote: post #465

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If you're pro-something, surly you'd want people to do it?

I’m pro-choice - does this mean that I think every fetus should be aborted?

Pro-choice literally means you think women should be able to choose whether or not they terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

I hope you’re trolling — you’re comment made me lol when I first read it because it’s so misguided.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by dunco »

bash-j wrote: post #523
dunco wrote: post #514

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The sites I've found to be at least making an honest evaluation are: choice.com.au (Australian context, Aus version of consumer reports) Their reviews just seem to miss the mark sometimes, but at least you can count on the fact its an honest take so you can kind of pick specific facts from the reviews and take them as true, maybe don't rely on their overall recommendations though. funded through magazine/web subscrit…

I also subscribe to choice. They do lots more than product reviews. They have general guides on how to get the best use out of products, mystery shoppers reviewing customer service, tools to compare health insurance, etc. The reason I stay subscribed is they campaign about consumer rights issues which actually cause industries as a whole to change, e.g. bank fees. They also have the shonky awards which usually gets a…

totally agree. In fact the consumer advocacy is probably more of why I stay subscribed than the reviews :)

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by aiisjustanif »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #305
aiisjustanif wrote: post #143

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I’m going to dissent here on this thread because I’m not seeing any references. I personally feel the quality of Wirecutter has gone down since NY Times just a bit. However, after almost a decade of reading Wirecutter they have overwhelming provided a decent “why you should trust us” section for staple consumer items. There is a good example from just today. [1] You can always say they should do more, but honestly th…

"Why you should trust us" or not, I take issue with Wirecutter specifically with their air purifier reviews. They've continued to recommend Blueair and Coway despite being faced with complaints. I don't care why Wirecutter claims you should trust them but I do care when they just stick their head in the ground WRT feedback.

The have 30 BBB complaints that are all resolved… [1]

[1]: https://www.bbb.org/us/il/chicago/profile/air-purification-s...

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Post by teh_klev »

hoseja wrote: post #579
teh_klev wrote: post #456

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> Maybe, but those WAN show lectures are often starkly mirroerd[sic] by strongly worded submarine advertisement playing as segments on his various shows. Every one of their videos clearly mention who the sponsors are i.e. the "sponsored showcase" videos. And when they're not those types of videos, but just have regular advertising, they say out loud and clear "and this segway's to our sponsor...". I'm not shilling fo…

The word is "segue", not "segway".

I know and realised after it was too late to edit. And I used work in radio and should know better. Sitting here with bright red shame-face :)

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Post by 9935c101ab17a66 »

bradlys wrote: post #409
rhyzomatic wrote: post #375

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Do you mind sharing some links to back up these claims? Just watched a video [0] where he clearly comes across as being pro workers rights, and against passing prop 22 in California. He seems to be generally pro-union while still trying to point out some general issues with them. He also says he would be "offended" if his employees unionized at LMG, which while maybe is a bit stupid to say, I don't think counts as an…

People should also understand why he said he would be offended. He would be offended because it meant they didn’t talk to him and work with him - and that he did such a bad job as a manager that they decided to unionize. He’s pro-union - he just hopes he is a good enough boss that his employees don’t feel like they need to unionize. He clarified his viewpoint in later videos. Offended was probably not the best choice…

Anyone who is truly “pro-union” would recognize that seeing yourself as a good manager/boss doesn’t mean you don’t take advantage of your employees. Furthermore, there is ALWAYS a power dynamic at play that makes it difficult for individuals to speak up about their concerns or ideas for improving working conditions — even “nice” managers will disagree or see certain things as pointless / unnecessary / frivolous. Not to mention, Linus is both the owner AND the manager of LMG, making the relationship between employer / employee even more complex and unbalanced.

Unions are a tool to give individual workers more leverage in negotiations that almost always favour employers / managers.

A side note: Linus could be a great day-to-day manager, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a bad “ceo” if that’s what he calls himself. He can be incredibly personable and kind and supportive, but also have unreasonable expectations about work hours, employee’s social media activities, compensation, etc.

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Post by 411111111111111 »

AshWolfy wrote: post #548
fartcannon wrote: post #467

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As someone who loathes Apple, I disagree. But I do agree that there's basically no place to get a trustworthy resource on Apple. Because, for the same reason I don't trust Linus, money is involved.

I think the truth is you cant trust any one reviewer, you should always look at multiple reviewers.

Thats was true some time ago, but isn't anymore - for every authentic review you will find hundreds of fake SEO article/comments. This means that by simply increasing n you're basically guaranteed to be less informed.

Welcome to the age of misinformation.

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Post by omega3 »

hansword wrote: post #142
kitsunesoba wrote: post #82

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I'm hopeful for LMG's lab too. It's still a bit of a gamble, but from the sound of it the company is set up such that they can review products in an objective, data-backed way and tank any blowback from manufacturers that occurs as a result. It's much more focused on enthusiast computer hardware, but Gamers Nexus[0] is doing good things in this space too. Their style is much more dry and data-dense than LMG's though,…

I want to second the gamers nexus recommendation here. (To be frank, I think LMG labs is very much inspired by what GN has been doing over the last year or two.)

On a tangential note, I prefer GN for their understated delivery and heavy use of data and charts. On some channels the emphasis is clearly more on the -tainment part of infotainment. The default tech video is is now produced with the same template: little jokes between presenters, background history, open ended questions, Netflix type camera shots on the couch, post processing, visual effects etc. With GN at least it's easy to FF to see a graph and listen to conclusions. Other channels require me to be emotionally invested in the content and delivey method and it gets very tiring after a while.

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Post by mschuster91 »

simondotau wrote: post #580
usednet wrote: post #572

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Unionisation as a default state of affairs is what prevents exploitation. Join a union.

Which is great in theory, until you realise that unions can and do exploit workers too. Collectives of people (whether corporations, unions, or entire countries) tend towards corruption as they scale. History has shown that large unions are similarly prone to exploitation and corruption.

> History has shown that large unions are similarly prone to exploitation and corruption.

Mostly in the US, it seems. Unions in Europe are healthy and effective. The key difference IMO is the interest people show in democracy and holding delegates accountable.

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