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Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by coldtea »

teh_klev wrote: post #406
fartcannon wrote: post #329

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Do you trust Linus, though? He often promotes himself as without bias, but he very clearly hates Apple (except the watch). He also loves things he already understands (anything Microsoft). He's got heavy duty fanboyitis. And he's clearly someone you can buy demonstrated by his flip flopping AMD/Intel/NVidia praise. I don't think he outwardly lies (at least not in a way that matters), or anything, but he's got pretty…

> And he's clearly someone you can buy demonstrated by his flip flopping AMD/Intel/NVidia praise. He gives praise where praise is due, that isn't bias. Many times on the WAN show he's reminded viewers and especially Red/Green/Blue fanboys that none of these companies are your friend. And big deal if he's more productive using Windows than Linux. I'm in no way defending Linus, there's a bunch of stuff him and another…

I think that's a little naive. He's more of an entertainer making money with sponsorships than a reviewer telling hard truths.

Heck, even the Wirecutter, owned by the NYTs, is known to push products based on sponsorships...

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by kadoban »

fartcannon wrote: post #457
kadoban wrote: post #433

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> Their opinion changes depending on who is sponsoring them, no? No, to the extent humanly possible. They have reviews, which are not sponsored by anyone having anything to do with the product being reviewed. Those are their actual opinions and evaluations of products. Separately they have sponsored showcase videos, or whatever they call them, where they won't say anything untrue, but they're just showing off whateve…

Like, not to be dismissive, but how do you know? Talk is cheap. Edit: thanks for the link to the video.

Same way anyone knows anything, really. I look at what they've said, look at their actions and decided if they matched. You can tell that they genuinely want and try to do good.

Certainly feel free to evaluate differently for yourself.

I watch a lot of their content. Mostly it's just fun, but I do trust them to have pretty good takes on things when I'm considering buying something as well.

I do always check others though, mostly for the real gritty details that LTT doesn't usually focus on. I'm hoping that their Labs project starts providing a lot more of those too.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by charlie0 »

idoh wrote: post #119
darzu wrote: post #102

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YouTube or google site:reddit.com usually yields the best actual human reviews for me. Or specific categories like America’s Test Kitchen for kitchen stuff.

site:reddit.com works and I use it often. But I do wonder how long it will be until reddit starts to get gamed as well (if it isn't already).

If there's money to be made (and there is) assume it's getting gamed to some degree.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by bradlys »

fartcannon wrote: post #465
bradlys wrote: post #451

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It’s really not. People tend to only form unions when they feel that they’re being unjustly treated and this is one of their last resorts.

If you're pro-something, surly you'd want people to do it?

I’m pro-choice - does this mean that I think every fetus should be aborted?

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by etchalon »

rcoveson wrote: post #446
etchalon wrote: post #387

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A E12 filter filters out 99.5% of particles above 0.3 microns. An H13 filter filters out 99.95% of particles above 0.3 microns. Assuming a volume of 10000 particles above 0.3 microns: An E12 filter will leave 50 particles. An H13 filter will leave 5 particles. That's a 10x difference.

The only point the author was making with the 0.9005 vs 0.90005 example was that if you're only processing 10% of the air, then the efficiency of your filter doesn't matter. The entire section honestly would have been better without numbers, because they cause some amount of confusion and they don't really help make the point since it's obvious. If your room's air is recycled with outside air fully over the course of…

Saying, "OK, but as a total percent of the air in your home at any given time, the difference is tiny" is … weird. It's still a 10x difference.

Using small numbers to make the difference look small doesn't hide that.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by elhudy »

sizzle wrote: post #477

Since we are among experts here, please recommend the best air filters available to retail customers and I will gladly whatever price for the peace of mind, since I am not an expert and trust sites like Wirecutter over Amazon type of reviews.

Seriously. I’m just left sitting here wondering which damn air purifier to buy for my kitchen.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by teg4n_ »

armadsen wrote: post #354
fnimick wrote: post #334

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He's also vocally anti-union and actively tried to stop his employees from marketing themselves on personal social media (to stop them from building a following and then leaving, I'm guessing), so I refuse to watch any of his content or support his business in any way now.

I know this is completely subjective, and his millions of subscribers tell me my opinion is far from ubiquitous, but he's also just straight up obnoxious to me. One of those people whose voice, demeanor, appearance, everything, just immediately turns me off.

Agreed. I always think of his Amazon go video where thinks he “stole” tampons that were actually pads.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by DominoTree »

fartcannon wrote: post #474
p1necone wrote: post #436

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LTT very clearly demarcates which videos are sponsored and which are not.

How do you know that that's everything? It's just taking their word.

How do I know your comments aren't being sponsored by a rival YouTube channel?

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

kadoban wrote: post #482
fartcannon wrote: post #457

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Like, not to be dismissive, but how do you know? Talk is cheap. Edit: thanks for the link to the video.

Same way anyone knows anything, really. I look at what they've said, look at their actions and decided if they matched. You can tell that they genuinely want and try to do good. Certainly feel free to evaluate differently for yourself. I watch a lot of their content. Mostly it's just fun, but I do trust them to have pretty good takes on things when I'm considering buying something as well. I do always check others th…

Thanks, I have and that is where my original position comes from. Got some good alternative perspectives today though. Interesting to hear the same thing as evidence of either position.

My fav part of the channel is the rest of the team. One thing you can't fault Linus for is his ability to hire entertaining characters and promote a fun environment. That is a great skill. There's at least 5 other people there who could be YouTube empires all on their own.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by kadoban »

fartcannon wrote: post #489
kadoban wrote: post #482

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Same way anyone knows anything, really. I look at what they've said, look at their actions and decided if they matched. You can tell that they genuinely want and try to do good. Certainly feel free to evaluate differently for yourself. I watch a lot of their content. Mostly it's just fun, but I do trust them to have pretty good takes on things when I'm considering buying something as well. I do always check others th…

Thanks, I have and that is where my original position comes from. Got some good alternative perspectives today though. Interesting to hear the same thing as evidence of either position. My fav part of the channel is the rest of the team. One thing you can't fault Linus for is his ability to hire entertaining characters and promote a fun environment. That is a great skill. There's at least 5 other people there who cou…

> One thing you can't fault Linus for is his ability to hire entertaining characters and promote a fun environment. That is a great skill. There's at least 5 other people there who could be YouTube empires all on their own.

Yeah, agreed, it's a bit absurd to me how they've managed to collect so many actually talented, entertaining people.

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