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Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by bradlys »

fartcannon wrote: post #447
bradlys wrote: post #409

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People should also understand why he said he would be offended. He would be offended because it meant they didn’t talk to him and work with him - and that he did such a bad job as a manager that they decided to unionize. He’s pro-union - he just hopes he is a good enough boss that his employees don’t feel like they need to unionize. He clarified his viewpoint in later videos. Offended was probably not the best choice…

Pro-union but would be offended if his employees made a union? That's the kinda double speak I'm talking about.

It’s really not. People tend to only form unions when they feel that they’re being unjustly treated and this is one of their last resorts.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by Gigachad »

jefftk wrote: post #290
rootlocus wrote: post #289

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Another application of Amdahl's law.

"the overall performance improvement gained by optimizing a single part of a system is limited by the fraction of time that the improved part is actually used" Thanks for teaching me the name for this principle!

This is how I feel every time HN suggests rewriting every website in C while ignoring the fact the database takes most of the time for average web apps.

Or the articles about how Python is causing climate disaster while the author continues to drive an oversized SUV.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM »

ferongr wrote: post #252
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #203

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I've always enjoyed Marques Brownlee (MKBHD)[0]. He's made a pretty lucrative career of great reviews, without selling his soul. [0] https://www.youtube.com/user/marquesbrownlee

MKBHD is good for entertainment purposes only.

I find him soothing.

Most TV these days is so "nails on chalkboard" omg-turn-it-off-quickly that I wonder how they make money.

Perhaps they get paid to give viewers anxiety.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

criley2 wrote: post #438
fartcannon wrote: post #435

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I disagree that it's silly. I think that's unfairly dismissive of a valid point when he is paid money to advertise for those companies and we are discussing the validity of his reviews of that equipment.

LTT makes almost all of it's money from floatplane, youtube premium, and youtube advertisements. The "deals" they work with companies are almost entirely outside of the product space they review. This mud-slinging idea you continue to push (with zero evidence) is contrary to their financials and directly contrary to their business model. Why on earth would Linus leverage his entire business in debt to buy a huge faci…

Salacious is a bit of a salicous word for doubting their reviewer credibility.

I get it. You disagree with me. I hope you are right because he's got quite a bit of power these days.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by [deleted] »

jefftk wrote: post #41

Agreed: the Wirecutter's emphasis on HEPA is not right for a purifier that sits in a room. Once you get to reasonably high removal efficacy (even 90%, let alone 99.5% vs 99.97%) flow rate matters far more than filter spec. I also wish the Wirecutter would publish more detailed logs. They just check the particle density after half an hour, which is generally super low. Instead they could show the particle density curv…

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Post by teh_klev »

fartcannon wrote: post #431
teh_klev wrote: post #406

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> And he's clearly someone you can buy demonstrated by his flip flopping AMD/Intel/NVidia praise. He gives praise where praise is due, that isn't bias. Many times on the WAN show he's reminded viewers and especially Red/Green/Blue fanboys that none of these companies are your friend. And big deal if he's more productive using Windows than Linux. I'm in no way defending Linus, there's a bunch of stuff him and another…

Maybe, but those WAN show lectures are often starkly mirroerd by strongly worded submarine advertisement playing as segments on his various shows. He basically does a thing, then says that people shouldn't do that. To put it gently, it's exactly what someone with soft sales skills would do. He deflects like a politician. Even if he's wrong, and admitting it, he's very skilled at making it sound like its everyone who…

> Maybe, but those WAN show lectures are often starkly mirroerd[sic] by strongly worded submarine advertisement playing as segments on his various shows.

Every one of their videos clearly mention who the sponsors are i.e. the "sponsored showcase" videos. And when they're not those types of videos, but just have regular advertising, they say out loud and clear "and this segway's to our sponsor...".

I'm not shilling for the fella but their content is some of the best when it comes to being transparent about who's paying for their videos. He can't risk getting that wrong.

> Narcissist is probably the word.

He's clearly offended you somehow and sometime in the past so why continue to watch their content? If a content creator offended me this much then I'd just walk away.

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Post by fartcannon »

kadoban wrote: post #433
fartcannon wrote: post #399

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Well, no, it would work way better if he had no bias. Otherwise you have to trust that he's aware of his bias and is somehow capable of separating his opinion from reality. Otherwise how does it help anyone make a financial choice? I like the show(s). They're fun. But I don't use them to determine which CPU to buy or whatever. Their opinion changes depending on who is sponsoring them, no?

> Their opinion changes depending on who is sponsoring them, no? No, to the extent humanly possible. They have reviews, which are not sponsored by anyone having anything to do with the product being reviewed. Those are their actual opinions and evaluations of products. Separately they have sponsored showcase videos, or whatever they call them, where they won't say anything untrue, but they're just showing off whateve…

Like, not to be dismissive, but how do you know? Talk is cheap.

Edit: thanks for the link to the video.

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Post by steamer25 »

breput wrote: post #111

Big Clive made a video and wrote an OpenSCAD script[0] which allows you to 3D print a base and adapter to convert a regular 120mm computer fan into a "true" HEPA air purifier. You might already have a spare 120mm fan laying around - I am using a $8 ARCTIC P12 fan[1] which is very quiet and is designed to work with high static pressure. The generic filters[2] are two for $17, (supposedly) H13 grade, available from a n…

Matthias Wandel recently did some experiments over several options. A decent furnace filter, when duct-taped to a box-fan, did surprisingly well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDZ9yUdM2wA

It turned out that my local hardware store had a similar pre-manufactured offering with a slightly less Jerry-rigged aesthetic. We bought one for my son's allergies but I also noticed an improvement on the whole upper floor of our house. Box fans can move a lot of air. Furnace filters are cheap commodities with a large cross-sectional area that also allow a fair amount of flow.

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Post by criley2 »

fartcannon wrote: post #454
criley2 wrote: post #438

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LTT makes almost all of it's money from floatplane, youtube premium, and youtube advertisements. The "deals" they work with companies are almost entirely outside of the product space they review. This mud-slinging idea you continue to push (with zero evidence) is contrary to their financials and directly contrary to their business model. Why on earth would Linus leverage his entire business in debt to buy a huge faci…

Salacious is a bit of a salicous word for doubting their reviewer credibility. I get it. You disagree with me. I hope you are right because he's got quite a bit of power these days.

Salacious is an eminently accurate word for your string of source-less comments describing your feelings about their advertisements under the guise of actual accusations of wrongdoing.

I don't "disagree with you", I dismiss you. I provided an accurate description of their financials and incentives and demonstrated that your salacious claims literally don't make sense.

This is good and normal! We should always dismiss peoples feelings especially when they directly contradict all available evidence. However, I happily await your evidence demonstrating that Linus has been corrupted by a hardware partner into producing devious advertising! We'd all love for you to back your claims up.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by toofy »

jeromegv wrote: post #69
daenz wrote: post #60

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> it looks awful. I would not want that in my home. When west coast forest fires put dangerous levels of smoke into peoples homes, box fan air filters are an extremely valuable tool for lower income families. Consider yourself extremely fortunate if you are able to choose form over function on devices like this.

Of course, but nobody is preventing that information to be shared. When I looked for air purifier last year, there was tons of articles I saw on how to build your own. This isn't hidden, there's tons of good resources out there. I don't understand why you try to shame us for choosing to buy our own. Of course we are fortunate we can afford it. We aren't talking of a sports car here, it's few hundreds dollar, this is…

> I don't understand why you try to shame us…

I suspect you may have unintentionally read too much into the motivations from the comments. I didn’t see anything which resembled shaming.

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