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Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by teh_klev »

fartcannon wrote: post #454
criley2 wrote: post #438

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LTT makes almost all of it's money from floatplane, youtube premium, and youtube advertisements. The "deals" they work with companies are almost entirely outside of the product space they review. This mud-slinging idea you continue to push (with zero evidence) is contrary to their financials and directly contrary to their business model. Why on earth would Linus leverage his entire business in debt to buy a huge faci…

Salacious is a bit of a salicous word for doubting their reviewer credibility. I get it. You disagree with me. I hope you are right because he's got quite a bit of power these days.

> I hope you are right because he's got quite a bit of power these days.

Oh c'mon. The guy is just a YouTube celeb like hundreds of others and easily disposable, what is this "power" he wields?

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by dhzhzjsbevs »

fartcannon wrote: post #435
p1necone wrote: post #421

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> flip flopping AMD/Intel/NVidia praise This is a silly take. Tech evolves and companies release more than one product at a time. It would be weird if LTT /didn't/ have "flip-flopping" takes on various companies.

I disagree that it's silly. I think that's unfairly dismissive of a valid point when he is paid money to advertise for those companies and we are discussing the validity of his reviews of that equipment.

It's silly because it isn't a valid point. Linus flip flopping on those brands is precisely why he isn't suffering from fanboyitis.

It's kind of rediculous to claim he's a fanboy in one sentence then claim he's just a shill in the next when the evidence contradicts your first statement.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by aceazzameen »

I'm under the impression Wirecutter's reviews are also influenced from being paid by some manufacturers. No way to prove it, just a feeling as a consumer. Yet, I still look at them as a source occasionally.

When getting a air purifiers over a year ago, I read Wirecutter, Amazon, Reddit, and a few other blog-like websites and used that data to compare. For instance, Wirecutter recommends the Coway units. Yet Amazon had many recent reviews of their units breaking. And filters are expensive year after year. Wirecutter also recommends Winix as a runner up, and even says it performs better than the Coways, but they liked the Coways because it looks nicer. That tells me Coway pays them to be #1. Because other sites tell me about the breakage and expensive filter cost. Wirecutter omits that Winix has cheaper filters and doesn't have manufacturing issues. But according to them it's uglier even if it slightly out performs the Coway.

That being said, I got several Winix units and they've been great. Wirecutter served it's purpose for me.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by srazzaque »

Brakenshire wrote: post #176
kitsunesoba wrote: post #82

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I'm hopeful for LMG's lab too. It's still a bit of a gamble, but from the sound of it the company is set up such that they can review products in an objective, data-backed way and tank any blowback from manufacturers that occurs as a result. It's much more focused on enthusiast computer hardware, but Gamers Nexus[0] is doing good things in this space too. Their style is much more dry and data-dense than LMG's though,…

https://www.notebookcheck.net/ also seems to do a lot of their own testing.

Second this. Whenever I'm looking up a review for a notebook, my default search term is " notebookcheck" to see if they've done a review.

The visual size comparison tool is also extremely handy for comparing something you're about to buy, with something you already have access to. It gives you a much better sense of how much bigger/smaller this thing is.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

bradlys wrote: post #451
fartcannon wrote: post #447

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Pro-union but would be offended if his employees made a union? That's the kinda double speak I'm talking about.

It’s really not. People tend to only form unions when they feel that they’re being unjustly treated and this is one of their last resorts.

If you're pro-something, surly you'd want people to do it?

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by TheBozzCL »

applecrazy wrote: post #311
mschild wrote: post #298

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I think the main problem is probably finding any mainstream consumer TVs that are non-smart. I have looked and beyond some obscure brands or short of incredibly expensive commercial models there are barely any options.

Any TV is stupid if you don’t connect it to the Internet.

Sadly, that assumes the TV will behave and not connect to open networks, or use companies' mesh networks (like Amazon Sidewalk), and that they'll never include their own SIM cards.

Granted, none of this has happened yet... but when it happens, I'll start busting open my devices to disconnect any and all antennas.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

danudey wrote: post #439
fartcannon wrote: post #329

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Do you trust Linus, though? He often promotes himself as without bias, but he very clearly hates Apple (except the watch). He also loves things he already understands (anything Microsoft). He's got heavy duty fanboyitis. And he's clearly someone you can buy demonstrated by his flip flopping AMD/Intel/NVidia praise. I don't think he outwardly lies (at least not in a way that matters), or anything, but he's got pretty…

As an Apple fanboy, I can easily say that Linus does not hate Apple. Linus DOES hate a lot of what Apple does; cases where they make things more unrepairable for no real reason, or various socio-political causes (like opposing Right to Repair or unions or whatever). Regardless of that though, I would trust a Linus review of a new iPhone or iPad a lot more than I would trust a lot of other sites, because I know he's n…

As someone who loathes Apple, I disagree. But I do agree that there's basically no place to get a trustworthy resource on Apple. Because, for the same reason I don't trust Linus, money is involved.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by applecrazy »

TheBozzCL wrote: post #466
applecrazy wrote: post #311

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Any TV is stupid if you don’t connect it to the Internet.

Sadly, that assumes the TV will behave and not connect to open networks, or use companies' mesh networks (like Amazon Sidewalk), and that they'll never include their own SIM cards. Granted, none of this has happened yet... but when it happens, I'll start busting open my devices to disconnect any and all antennas.

That's terrifying and I hope this isn't a default.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

teh_klev wrote: post #456
fartcannon wrote: post #431

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Maybe, but those WAN show lectures are often starkly mirroerd by strongly worded submarine advertisement playing as segments on his various shows. He basically does a thing, then says that people shouldn't do that. To put it gently, it's exactly what someone with soft sales skills would do. He deflects like a politician. Even if he's wrong, and admitting it, he's very skilled at making it sound like its everyone who…

> Maybe, but those WAN show lectures are often starkly mirroerd[sic] by strongly worded submarine advertisement playing as segments on his various shows. Every one of their videos clearly mention who the sponsors are i.e. the "sponsored showcase" videos. And when they're not those types of videos, but just have regular advertising, they say out loud and clear "and this segway's to our sponsor...". I'm not shilling fo…

How do you know what he's saying isn't only half truths? You just trust him. I have seen enough of his behaviour over the years to prefer to see his videos as comedy. That's all.

Re: Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier

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Post by fartcannon »

dhzhzjsbevs wrote: post #462
fartcannon wrote: post #435

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I disagree that it's silly. I think that's unfairly dismissive of a valid point when he is paid money to advertise for those companies and we are discussing the validity of his reviews of that equipment.

It's silly because it isn't a valid point. Linus flip flopping on those brands is precisely why he isn't suffering from fanboyitis. It's kind of rediculous to claim he's a fanboy in one sentence then claim he's just a shill in the next when the evidence contradicts your first statement.

Well, again, I disagree. It's ridiculous to see a behaviour with your own eyes and then choose to believe it's the opposite.
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