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Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by lukvol »

simias wrote: post #106
rglover wrote: post #27

Wow. Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this, figured I'd give it a try. That is hands down the BEST onboarding experience for an app (let alone a VPN) I've had in I don't know how long. Took me maybe 2 minutes to go from no account to a working VPN connection. I love that everything is anonymous (down to the account credentials just being a randomly generated token).

I also like that they let you download the raw wireguard config files so that you can connect without having to use their client. You can just plop them onto your filesystem and use wg-quick to get going. Since I'm also a ProtonMail user and I considered switching to them for VPN as well but their python client doesn't seem to work correctly on my Arch Linux install and it doesn't give me anything useful to debug it…

I think you can also get the raw wireguard config files for ProtonVPN: https://protonvpn.com/support/wireguard-configurations/

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by GekkePrutser »

dcow wrote: post #116

Why are VPNs what people flock to when they think they want privacy? Moreover they kinda break the internet so it's not a scalable solution. It's cool to see a good one selling a privacy message and doing it at level 11, but it seems kinda disingenuous to me to tell users that they're more private because they use a VPN. Private from your current ISP, sure, but not from Mullvad (they're your new ISP, you're just movi…

It's just one of the many layers of good opsec of you care about privacy. You shouldn't rely on this alone.

And breaking the internet? I think centralisation by parties like Amazon, Google, CloudFlare does that a lot more.

And if you want you can even send them cash in an envelope. Or monero or whatever.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by kzrdude »

kadoban wrote: post #120
malfist wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mullvard is behind the mozilla vpn. They're crazy good about privacy. You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up.

Mullvad accepts cash as well. In what way are they behind?

Mullvad is the service provider, Moz just resells their service

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by JonyEpsilon »

kadoban wrote: post #120
malfist wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mullvard is behind the mozilla vpn. They're crazy good about privacy. You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up.

Mullvad accepts cash as well. In what way are they behind?

Behind in the "controlling or responsible for (an event or plan)" sense was meant, perhaps?

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by palata »

kadoban wrote: post #120
malfist wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mullvard is behind the mozilla vpn. They're crazy good about privacy. You can mail them cash with account info and they'll set you up.

Mullvad accepts cash as well. In what way are they behind?

Misunderstanding. The Mozilla VPN is Mullvad (rebranded).

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by _abox »

misterdee wrote: post #86
rglover wrote: post #27

Wow. Hadn't heard of Mullvad before reading this, figured I'd give it a try. That is hands down the BEST onboarding experience for an app (let alone a VPN) I've had in I don't know how long. Took me maybe 2 minutes to go from no account to a working VPN connection. I love that everything is anonymous (down to the account credentials just being a randomly generated token).

I can wholeheartedly recommend them after using their service the past few months. They offer Linux configs with wireguard (a sore point with other VPN providers, who tend to either not support Linux at all or only offer openvpn), their Android App has worked flawless and it's just 5E/month.

Yes and they even make double hopping easy. Many other VPNs don't like this, presumably because they have to eat 3 times the traffic.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by kadoban »

dcow wrote: post #116

Why are VPNs what people flock to when they think they want privacy? Moreover they kinda break the internet so it's not a scalable solution. It's cool to see a good one selling a privacy message and doing it at level 11, but it seems kinda disingenuous to me to tell users that they're more private because they use a VPN. Private from your current ISP, sure, but not from Mullvad (they're your new ISP, you're just movi…

> [...] it seems kinda disingenuous to me to tell users that they're more private because they use a VPN. Private from your ISP, sure [...]

Bit of a contradiction there. It adds friction to at least some attacks against your privacy. That's better privacy.

Nothing will ever be perfect, and VPNs can easily be oversold in terms of their benefits (especially since https became the norm). But they have benefits in some common use-cases.

> Also it seems all I need to do as an "attacker" is subpoena (or whatever the Swedish equivalent is) Mullvad while your payment record is on file and I get the info I want. If Mullvad really wanted to go hardcore why not only sell little top up cards cash-only at kiosks?

They accept cash and at least some other privacy preserving payment methods already.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by yieldcrv »

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #94
yieldcrv wrote: post #93

Do they take crypto? I’ve funded some virgin addresses from Tornado Cash notes, running from my own local node Thats sufficient and definitely less cumbersome than Monero.

Man, checking this one takes like 10 seconds. Not only they do take "crypto", they also have a 10% discount if you pay with it.

I actually did take 10 seconds, scrolled down and saw the pricing page, decided not to click that because so many services only show the janky crypto payment option during a janky checkout process so decided not to bother and just ask here in the remaining 2 seconds. It worked.
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