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We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b »

dymk wrote: post #70
kombucha13 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean a properly configured VPN can do a lot more Then hide you from your ISP

Like what? Now you’re just using their ISP.

Some of us have really crappy ISPs (that also happen to be monopolists) that do things like HTTPS MITM (when they try to force you to install their root CA certificate and HTTPS simply doesn't work unless you do it), block DNS requests unless you use their DNS servers, or store all your traffic (this is being done in Russia, but it's close enough). I very much prefer to cover the precise details of my communications from my ISP and 'outsource' that stuff to Europe.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by spupe »

wfhordie wrote: post #72
causality0 wrote: post #16

Have Mullvad's privacy guarantees been tested by subpoena?

If your threat model includes nation state intervention, a 5 Euro VPN isn't going to help you. In fact, no VPN is going to help you. The best you can get is probably Tor + Tails, but even then you better be looking over your shoulder.

That's not necessarily true. A lot of state surveillance comes through having backdoor or legal access to lots of services. Many VPNs have been tested in court on whether they actually have information on you to disclose, and some even have independent audits to verify that such information is not even kept.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b »

yieldcrv wrote: post #93

Do they take crypto? I’ve funded some virgin addresses from Tornado Cash notes, running from my own local node Thats sufficient and definitely less cumbersome than Monero.

Man, checking this one takes like 10 seconds. Not only they do take "crypto", they also have a 10% discount if you pay with it.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by INTPenis »

Arubis wrote: post #38

My only concern with Mullvad is that, as their profile and reputation increase, they become a bigger target. That’s mostly a vote of confidence, though the concern is a real one.

But what is also great about Mullvad is that they're actively working to make their remote and local security better. They're involved in the stboot[1] project for example.

1. https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2022/1/12/diskless-infrastructur...

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by kalleboo »

zdkl wrote: post #82
cersa8 wrote: post #65

I like this a lot even though my primary reason is unexpected subscription renewal. I started a membership site and tried to use every single thing I would want as a customer. One of the things was a reminder that my yearly membership was about to expire, and by doing nothing this would indeed happen. No automatic renewal (but keeping the account in an inactive state). Confident customers can renew for 3 years with a…

In some circles that'll count against you if you try to sell the product/company. Investors are interested in recurring revenue and will value it very differently than your loose-relation clients. Not saying it's a thing you should always do, but worth keeping in mind.

Right, if your product is your company, this is the wrong attitude. But if you product is your product, then it's fantastic.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by kvathupo »

Arubis wrote: post #38

My only concern with Mullvad is that, as their profile and reputation increase, they become a bigger target. That’s mostly a vote of confidence, though the concern is a real one.

Perhaps a Swede can chime in, but I'd imagine Sweden has a lax regulatory approach, e.g. compare the fates of PRQ and Megaupload. It's, admittedly inexplicably, concerning that we've driven people to foreign companies (from American ones) due to government surveillance. It begs the question: under what conditions would a consumer be fine ceding privacy? Transparency? Remuneration?

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by Cyph0n »

mig39 wrote: post #6

I've always loved that Mullvad wouldn't let you accidentally compromise your own security. For example, the port-forwarding feature won't work if you have a recurring subscription. This just extends that kind of thinking to the service in general. Been a Mullvad customer for a long time now, and it's always been awesome.

> For example, the port-forwarding feature won't work if you have a recurring subscription.

Yep, I had to cancel my subscription recently to get port forwarding working. I've been a customer for a few years now and trusted that they were doing this because it made sense from a privacy standpoint.

Re: We are removing the option to create new subscriptions

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Post by leaflets2 »

ascar wrote: post #13

That's great news and they just got a huge boost in reputation for me. Definitely the go to service if I need a good VPN again. Especially strong decision since this will certainly cost them a lot of revenue and I don't think the boost in reputation will counter that in the long run.

I guess they'll notice after a month or a year

What'll happen. I suppose there is a "middle" group of users who want a VPN a bit but not super much, and long term now might leave

Anyway I like Mullvad's mindset

Hi Mullvad, I hope you'll post a follow-up a year later :-)

What if you, as part of the payment flow, included adding a calendar reminder X months later

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