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Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by MaxikCZ »

de6u99er wrote: post #130
jiggawatts wrote: post #31

Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

What about LG WebOS TVs?

I made myself a promise to convey my sentiment towards LG tvs to anyone asking, so here you go: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24662353#24665736

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by consp »

jiggawatts wrote: post #31

Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

Samsung's approach to security is writing a memory mapper for the camera app which can map any memory region to userspace and is by default world accessible. I'm not expecting anything.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by consp »

Bud wrote: post #106
CoastalCoder wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of us share your distaste for the issues your mentioned. The challenge is finding better alternatives. Do you have any recommendations?

I suggest Bosch. Especially for dishwashers. My old apartment had one: 7 years with zero issues. My new house has one: zero issues, the design is a real pleasure to use, and it also happens to be the quietest dishwasher sold in the US, at least according to the Googling I did when I first ran it and could barely even tell it was on.

You also suggest Siemens, AEG and all the others using the same Bosch internals? They are mostly the same but are cheaper in general.

Note: I own a Bosch the internals are great but the plastic is too thin in parts especially the corners of the top of my stand-alone dishwasher model since they broke.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by ohgodplsno »

pdpi wrote: post #95
4oh9do wrote: post #83

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> They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. What a weird thing to say. Are you suggesting that it's fine that FAANG companies also spy on you mercilessly, because their security is ostensibly better?

When Google collects data about me, I’m relatively certain what I’d going to happen to that data — it gets folded into a bazillion models and is used to sell me shit. When Samsung collects data about me, I have absolutely no clue what happens next with that data. It’s not necessarily better or worse, but it’s a very different bit of privacy calculus you need to work through.

You may have forgotten the part where it's directly fed to the NSA. PRISM existed and still exists, and there is ongoing collaboration between every large tech company and the NSA.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by snuxoll »

thewebcount wrote: post #128
effingwewt wrote: post #56

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No, they do not. The TVs and the appliances are garbage. So garbage they still can't hire techs in LA. They pay you commission but only only on closed and profitable calls. They are almost never closed due to backorders of parts, especially boards, and especially now. Samsung and LG are both the same garbage in different packages. For TVs Id do your best to find a dumb one or use a monitor. For applicances it depends…

We have a Whirlpool dishwasher and it’s very quiet. I don’t know if it’s as quiet as the Bosch ones mentioned above, but I often don’t notice it’s on. It does take forever to complete a load, and it never fully dries the dishes. Even with the setting to high heat, they still come out dripping wet. I’m not sure why.

Sure your rinse aid dispenser is filled and at an appropriate setting? Modern dishwashers depend heavily on rinse aid, which is ultimately a surfactant to prevent surface tension from making water cling to your dishes - the dry boost setting can help but it’s not going to get pools of water out of cups with convex bottoms and such.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by alexb_ »

deanc wrote: post #139
Sophistifunk wrote: post #122

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Network administration skills are not an acceptable pre-requisite for a consumer product like a TV.

I'm not justifying it in any way - but changing DNS is trivial - something well within the capabilities of all the readers here.

You have absolutely no idea what "trivial" means. https://xkcd.com/2501/

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by philliphaydon »

bayindirh wrote: post #120
philliphaydon wrote: post #19

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I think a lot of us do. I just want a good image and hook up an Apple TV and a computer. I can’t stand using Android TV. I’ve never seen an example of it not being slow. And with ads now becoming a thing I don’t want it even more.

I'm on the same page with you. Actually, I was planning to do the same thing, but the one I got turns on in 2 seconds flat, and there's no feel of lag. It works reasonably snappy, which doesn't make you say "C'mon!". I think it's quite nice. The video processor in that thing is very nice too. I'm using it with out of the box settings, and I don't feel the need to tweak anything, yet. The model I have doesn't have bla…

I had a Panasonic using the old My Homescreen. That thing was fast. When I moved I sold the TV as the temp apartment had a TV. It was a Samsung TV and omg its is slower than any Android TV Box I've ever tried. Took ~40s before I could use the TV.

In Taiwan my father in law has a Sony TV with Android, it's a tiny bit slow, but it's acceptable. There's no Ads on it yet.

I'm yet to experience ad's but seems like alot of people are beginning to, makes me worried.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by Akronymus »

jreese wrote: post #65
mgraczyk wrote: post #21

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But then you get paid less money.

I would rather get paid less (still in top 99+% of US mind you) to do work that is meaningful to me, my coworkers, and the wider open source community-and then clock out at six pm to spend time with my partner and play games-than earn more and spend all of my time in meetings and design discussions and worrying about whether I'm having enough cross functional impact to meet performance expectations or whatever the ne…

For me, income is basically a enough/not enough kind of situation.

I don't feel the need to chase more money at the cost of my QoL

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by deanc »

alexb_ wrote: post #146
deanc wrote: post #139

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I'm not justifying it in any way - but changing DNS is trivial - something well within the capabilities of all the readers here.

You have absolutely no idea what "trivial" means. https://xkcd.com/2501/

Can't tell if you're being facetious or not. If a technologist can't change an IP address on a TV's network settings then they're probably in the wrong community.

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Post by hedora »

deadbunny wrote: post #41
Geonode wrote: post #38

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Every thread dozens of people say, "just don't connect!" They can connect to open networks such as Amazon sidewalk and other deliberate corporate IoT sabotage, and soon I'm sure we'll see the first televisions that require connection to even pass a signal from the HDMI port. The best thing to do is not support this immoral garbage through apathy or ignorance.

And every thread says they can connect to open WiFi without providing any proof that they do. It would be trivial to test and prove but no-one ever does. I'm not saying they wouldn't do it but I'd prefer some proof before judging them (without having to shell out to be the guinea pig).

My Samsung fridge manual says it'll mesh network with any Samsung TVs it sees, specifically to share tracking data for marketing purposes.
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