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Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Interestingly their "best LED TV" is a Samsung

Because by most measures they make some of the best TVs. The complaints are just about software which nobody does indepth reviews of.

Yes but, now we know not to trust their ratings.

They should review the product entirely, or they are wasting everybodies time.

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I suggest Bosch. Especially for dishwashers. My old apartment had one: 7 years with zero issues. My new house has one: zero issues, the design is a real pleasure to use, and it also happens to be the quietest dishwasher sold in the US, at least according to the Googling I did when I first ran it and could barely even tell it was on.

Seconding Bosch. I've only owned one of their dishwashers for a little over a year, and I'm really impressed with the low noise level. It also had a great leveling system that raises the back by turning a screw that was accessible from the front. It made DIY installation much easier. Bonus: no smart features to go sideways a few years down the line.

I recently bought a condo that has a Bosch dishwasher and it works extremely well. Every other dishwasher I’ve owned has required some level of pre-rinsing in order to do its job. This thing has never left a speck of food behind. And the dishes actually come out dry. It’s almost confusing how well it works.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Not surprised Samsung doing it. They consistently over promise and under deliver. I remember when buying their SSDs they promised support for HW encryption in future firmware update (Opal2/eDrive if I remember correctly) but they never actually delivered it. Since then I don’t trust anything Samsung promises or says.

They've been caught cheating on phone benchmarks, too. They also hyped the hell out of Apple removing the headphone jack...and then did the same thing. Ditto for Apple removing the default charger; Samsung quietly followed suit not long after Apple. The whole headphone jack thing is a joke. Just buy the sub-$10 Apple lighting or USB-C headphone adapter. An adapter that tests better than more than half of the "high en…

> They also hyped the hell out of Apple removing the headphone jack...and then did the same thing. Ditto for Apple removing the default charger; Samsung quietly followed suit not long after Apple.

I have a friend who worked at Apple then later ended up at Samsung. He said that any original idea at Samsung was immediately squashed and they were basically told when designing features to do whatever Apple did. So I’m not too surprised by that.

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Thats why the GPL requires the ability to install as well: https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/mar/25/install-gplv2/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/jul/23/tivoization-and-t... https://events19.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017...

Yeah, try to argue in front of a court that this somehow covers private signing keys.

I don't think the GPL covers signing keys, just some mechanism for installation. Allowing addition of additional signing keys is a good way to do it, just like UEFI Secure Boot does things. There are also plenty of phone vendors who allow bootloader unlock after wiping the device DRM/etc keys too.

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But then you get paid less money.

I would rather get paid less (still in top 99+% of US mind you) to do work that is meaningful to me, my coworkers, and the wider open source community-and then clock out at six pm to spend time with my partner and play games-than earn more and spend all of my time in meetings and design discussions and worrying about whether I'm having enough cross functional impact to meet performance expectations or whatever the ne…

Glad to hear this. I’ve hit this point in the past couple of years and I haven’t quite gotten to the point where I actually believe that management will be satisfied with my “no more climbing” attitude. Every time I get a new manager I have to have The Talk where I tell them that I’m happy with my level of impact and I don’t plan to spend my 1:1’s exploring what I need to tackle next on the leveling guidelines for the next promo. It’s a nice place to be, and I wonder when I’ll be able to really relax and stop waiting for the other shoe to drop. :D

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The article linked from the above has more details:

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=...

It answered a question I was going to ask, which is "why don't they just run in benchmark mode all the time?" And the answer is apparently because the extra brightness can not be sustained without damaging the panel.

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I'm totally done with Samsung. Their TVs are overpriced and bad, their phones add undeletable bloatware, remove useful stuff like headphone/mic jack, have low battery life and capacity and they force you to buy the flagship model, if you don't you'll receive a really small battery that even in the flagship model is not large enough. If you don't buy Galaxy series you won't even be able to mirror output via USB. And s…

> Imagine buying a 4TB SSD, copying your stuff over from the old HDD to have it die 2 months later.

This is one if the reasons why I have local backups (as well as off-site backups) on a RAID mirror containing drives from distinct manufacturers. I don't trust any of them not to pull this sort of crap, hopefully if I buy two from distinct sources they might not fail at the same time.

Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Many of us share your distaste for the issues your mentioned. The challenge is finding better alternatives. Do you have any recommendations?

I suggest Bosch. Especially for dishwashers. My old apartment had one: 7 years with zero issues. My new house has one: zero issues, the design is a real pleasure to use, and it also happens to be the quietest dishwasher sold in the US, at least according to the Googling I did when I first ran it and could barely even tell it was on.

I also had zero issues with my Siemens appliances (dishwasher, fridge, washing machine)

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You can block 99% of this by using the "Samsung" list with nextdns on your TV. Few other hosts in this thread [1] [1] https://gist.github.com/peteryates/b44b70d19ccd52f62d66cdd4b...

Network administration skills are not an acceptable pre-requisite for a consumer product like a TV.

I'm not justifying it in any way - but changing DNS is trivial - something well within the capabilities of all the readers here.

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Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

> use a "shop mode" that cranks up brightness to 11 and oversaturates the colours

Practically every TV does this. It makes them look better in brightly lit shops, and any TV that doesn't will look washed out next to all the ones that do even if they are actually better. Always review display settings when you get a new visual device, even if you buy online (devices are set this way out of the box rather than relying on the showroom making any tweaks, so all purchase methods are affected).

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