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Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks

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Post by throwaway675309 »

oneoff786 wrote: post #64
jiggawatts wrote: post #34

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Well yes, but then you're basically buying an expensive monitor and will need a second device to be the "smarts". I personally use an Apple TV for this, but in general this can be frustrating for users that just want their Smart TV to work without spying on them or implementing centrally triggered scheduled obsolescence. This is a bit like saying you should "never" turn on your new car's engine and should immediately…

I find this argument weird. Most people don’t want smart TVs. Dedicated smart devices are just better. Even non techies will probably feel this way because the TVs suck and the remote control interface is clunky and confusing. There’s simply no option to buy a dumb tv that isn’t something weird like a monitor or digital signage. Imo nothing beats a laptop with a wireless mouse and keyboard. So much better than a shit…

Because it's just so convenient to have to plug your laptop in via an HDMI cable and have it permanently tethered to your TV, and I just love sitting on the couch attempting to move a basically nonresponsive laser mouse on the furniture surface.

Cost of chromecast+remote: $30

Cost of secondhand laptop + wireless keyboard/mouse: $250

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Post by Sophistifunk »

deanc wrote: post #117
jiggawatts wrote: post #31

Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

You can block 99% of this by using the "Samsung" list with nextdns on your TV. Few other hosts in this thread [1] [1] https://gist.github.com/peteryates/b44b70d19ccd52f62d66cdd4b...

Network administration skills are not an acceptable pre-requisite for a consumer product like a TV.

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Post by bayindirh »

waiwai933 wrote: post #23
onionisafruit wrote: post #10

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Just poke around rtings.com and you’ll see the difference. It reminds me a bit of what wirecutter was in it’s pre-nyt days before it became a click generator.

I have done in the past, but I'm not sure what to make of the differences - let's take wireless keyboards as I'm currently thinking about getting one. If we look at Rtings[1], the first one it recommends is the Logitech MX Keys. On the Wirecutter[2], it first recommends the Logitech K380. To be clear, I've only skimmed both reviews right now. Both go on to recommend the other's first choice as a good alternative pick…

Reporting from a K380. That thing is great. Also they keys are backed by a metal plate, so the whole thing is pretty hefty and stable. Its simple looks are deceiving.

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Post by oynqr »

pabs3 wrote: post #116
oynqr wrote: post #110

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Having the kernel source won't really help with a locked bootloader.

Thats why the GPL requires the ability to install as well: https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/mar/25/install-gplv2/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/jul/23/tivoization-and-t... https://events19.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017...

Yeah, try to argue in front of a court that this somehow covers private signing keys.

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Post by toma_caliente »

Geonode wrote: post #98
deadbunny wrote: post #41

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And every thread says they can connect to open WiFi without providing any proof that they do. It would be trivial to test and prove but no-one ever does. I'm not saying they wouldn't do it but I'd prefer some proof before judging them (without having to shell out to be the guinea pig).

Whether they do now is irrelevant. Their entire history is violating trust.

You can't just make a claim without any evidence and then say "well it doesn't matter if they actually do it or not"

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Post by thewebcount »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #44
CoastalCoder wrote: post #39

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Many of us share your distaste for the issues your mentioned. The challenge is finding better alternatives. Do you have any recommendations?

LG makea better TVs, appliances, phones, everything.

Ugh. No. Just… no. We moved into a house with LG appliances. The refrigerator broke 3 weeks after moving in. It couldn’t have been even 5 years old.

The washing machine says every load is unbalanced. Small load of only socks? Unbalanced. Large load of blankets? Unbalanced. Moderate load of normal clothes. Unbalanced. If that weren’t bad enough, it doesn’t know how to keep track of time. It has a countdown timer showing how much time is left on the wash. The dryer does, too. They count down at different speeds. They can both be at “10 minutes left” and 10 minutes later the washer still has like 3 minutes left. Well, actually 2 because, unlike the dryer, it stops counting down at 2 instead of 1 for some reason. Also, if you put clothes in it and choose only a spin cycle because they’re wet but not dirty (usually because you just washed them and the load was unbalanced and stopped in the middle), it adds water and rinses them again anyway. Note that this is despite having a separate “rinse and spin” cycle. Sometimes the washer just doesn’t turn on. I press the button and nothing happens. I have to unplug it and plug it back in.

While the dryer counts down properly, that’s about the only thing it does properly. If you set the drying temp, then change the amount of time to dry, it changes the temp back to high. Hope you didn’t have anything that will shrink in that load! It will also be crispy when you pull it out.

LG appliances are so comically bad I can’t even fathom how anyone could say anything good about them.

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Post by comprev »

mgraczyk wrote: post #96
4oh9do wrote: post #85

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> the ads are annoying but it's fine This doesn't parse. It's like saying 'this apple is rotten but it's fine'. If the apple is rotten, then it is not fine. If the television has annoying ads, then it is not fine.

This is a common way of speaking in American English. For example "Hey earlier today you fell down, how's your elbow feeling?" "Not too bad, it's annoying but it's fine"

Double negatives are very much a British English thing and are commonly used in every day language.

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Post by thewebcount »

effingwewt wrote: post #56
lern_too_spel wrote: post #44

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LG makea better TVs, appliances, phones, everything.

No, they do not. The TVs and the appliances are garbage. So garbage they still can't hire techs in LA. They pay you commission but only only on closed and profitable calls. They are almost never closed due to backorders of parts, especially boards, and especially now. Samsung and LG are both the same garbage in different packages. For TVs Id do your best to find a dumb one or use a monitor. For applicances it depends…

We have a Whirlpool dishwasher and it’s very quiet. I don’t know if it’s as quiet as the Bosch ones mentioned above, but I often don’t notice it’s on. It does take forever to complete a load, and it never fully dries the dishes. Even with the setting to high heat, they still come out dripping wet. I’m not sure why.

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Post by dawnerd »

ofTheFountain wrote: post #81
jiggawatts wrote: post #31

Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

I have one of the earlier mid range 4k Samsungs. About two years in they gave it an update that added a Lote of bloatware, some of their own TV streaming channels full of Samsung ads. And for a bit I had Adguard home on my router and Samsung endpoints where the biggest thing blocked by far, and it was the only Samsung device in he house. Now I have the internet disabled on it and just use an Xbox for smart stuff, wil…

The notification ads are what made me swear them off. I don’t want GameFly ad notifications popping up when I’m watching a movie.

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Post by de6u99er »

jiggawatts wrote: post #31

Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…

What about LG WebOS TVs?
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