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SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Here's my unpopular opinion - good riddance. It's not a free speech issue because SpaceX isn't a public square. It's a company, and companies are top down. If these employees are at Musk's company, then they had better be prepared to play by Musk's rules, and they did the exact opposite, essentially leading a mutiny against the boss and sowing discord within the company in the process. SpaceX isn't an activist organi…

Activist employees are toxic to company culture. We created a rule that politics and religion were not appropriate topics at work. A couple of people quit in response, and morale improved dramatically.

How can you see out of that bedsheet?

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Activist employees are toxic to company culture. We created a rule that politics and religion were not appropriate topics at work. A couple of people quit in response, and morale improved dramatically.

It used to be social decorum to not talk about politics and religion at work. But the past 10 years everyone wants to be an activist now. I'd like to see more rules around this in every company. It kills productivity and really distracts from the company goals.

How many crosses did you burn this week?

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

#963

Here's my unpopular opinion - good riddance. It's not a free speech issue because SpaceX isn't a public square. It's a company, and companies are top down. If these employees are at Musk's company, then they had better be prepared to play by Musk's rules, and they did the exact opposite, essentially leading a mutiny against the boss and sowing discord within the company in the process. SpaceX isn't an activist organi…

On one hand, I agree with you. I've personally seen low level people at a large corporation believe they were unequivocally in the right, and tried to use the weight of their moral conviction to impose their view of things onto everyone else. It's not your job to do this, and it's not my job to care. On the other hand, there has to be some capacity for this type of discussion to occur. Musk owns less than 50% of Spac…

You could try not being racist.

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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The workers have a right to organize a labor union. They have a right to go on strike and shut the company down. They have a right to critique any process or rule in the company that they might wish to stop. They have a right to weigh in on the consequences of any of the company's processes, goals, or aims. The workers have had these rights recognized in law for most of the last century.

Your first two “rights” (form a union, and if they do, to organize a strike) are in fact legally protected behavior in the US. Latter two are just made-up nonsense. No, they in fact do not have those “rights”, you just wish they did.

See you in the revolution.

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Here's my unpopular opinion - good riddance. It's not a free speech issue because SpaceX isn't a public square. It's a company, and companies are top down. If these employees are at Musk's company, then they had better be prepared to play by Musk's rules, and they did the exact opposite, essentially leading a mutiny against the boss and sowing discord within the company in the process. SpaceX isn't an activist organi…

That’s what you get if your priorities clash. One side wants to build cool shit and the other side wants to shit post on Twitter.

Building cool shit doesn't require being a bigot.

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

#967

Here's my unpopular opinion - good riddance. It's not a free speech issue because SpaceX isn't a public square. It's a company, and companies are top down. If these employees are at Musk's company, then they had better be prepared to play by Musk's rules, and they did the exact opposite, essentially leading a mutiny against the boss and sowing discord within the company in the process. SpaceX isn't an activist organi…

This is sort of a meta comment, but if you look across history the men and women who forced civilization and technology forward were typically gigantic assholes. I'm not sure what to make of that, and Musk definitely is an asshole, but that doesn't mean I don't root for his space company that's finally returned the United States to the stars.

Musk has done nothing for humanity.

It is literally just wasting resources.

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Generally OK, but I'm not sure if we should have different perspective for SpaceX considering it's funded by taxpayers' money, it's not out there competing in the free market...

> it's funded by taxpayers' money, Its getting taxpayers money because the official money hole called the NASA can't manage to launch anything in space anymore.

So in your Mad Max fantasy wonderland you wouldn't complain if, say, you were trapped in a wooden shipping crate and the the crate was firebombed.

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

#969

Twitter is the worst thing to happen to Musk. The social media addiction knows no class/age/wealth/religious/creed boundary. It’s like social cancer that slowly destroys your relationship to society. Musk has done great things but these days I think he’s at his lowest point. /I’ve said this about three times now in threads like these.

> Musk has done great things

Have you ever been outside?

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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> A lot of people (myself included) really respect SpaceX and I think that's the last pillar on which Elon's reputation stands. Tesla honestly isn't that interesting and there's a real chance it gets eaten alive as other car manufacturers have caught up. Build quality wise? Definitely, Tesla has a lot of issues there which the established industry has ironed out and perfected over the last hundred years. Other proble…

As I understand it, there are other computer-controlled cars which are notable further along than Tesla. For example, Mercedes is will to take legal responsiblity for their system, while Tesla isn't.

This kind of claims are used also as PR stunt and to assure a "monopoly" over post-sale period. Any repair or maintenance out of Mercedes and I assume that the legal responsibility would vanish. In the past car owners were asked for extra guarantee for a minor increase in the price. Now they probably aren't being asked and is silently included in the overprice.
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