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Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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I finally beat my digestive issues and chronic fatigue (physical depression) which lasted 3+ years from 2019-2021. Without getting too far into it, here's the stuff that finally worked, weighted by immediacy on a scale of 10: - 10: Eating a serving of Brussels sprouts, preferably daily - 10: Taking about 3 psyllium husk capsules occasionally with FODMAP and spicy meals - 10: Taking a digestive enzyme occasionally wit…

So difficult to pick out which part of this had what effect though.

Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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I have a sample size of 1 as well. Probiotics didn’t help me but I’ve dealt with digestive issues for the last 4 years after a bout of food poisoning. I used to think gut flora / microbiome was quackery but I recently did an oral FMT (fecal microbiata transplant) the results were unreal. For reference, I’m a 37 y/o fit male and donor was 18 y/o female. After 2nd week I got the deepest sleep since I was a child (slept…

I have no medical training. This is speculation only. Consult a doctor. Assuming the translated gut flora to be the cause of your improvement then I'd look at two things. What bacteria the beneficial transplant contains, you can have it assayed (I believe it's called a bacterial culture test) and then find a cheaper source for that bacteria. Two, what the diet of the donor is, so you can try to replicate the benefici…

According to books such as "¡Es la microbiota, idiota!" (ISBN 8413440688 but I don't know if it's available in english) it's not that simple, I think they said that not all the strains are identified and even then there are strains that aren't easy to grow in vitro (I'm NOT a scientist, don't quote me on this, I just listened to the audiobook).

What they make a point on is diet, she insists on the importance of having a diet that gives desirable bacteria strains an environment where they can thrive to achieve a balance.

IIRC she also mentions how it's not as simple as having "good" and "bad" strains and how balance is key.

It's a really interesting and funny book to listen to if you have a few hours for it.

So in the case of OP I think you're right about finding out more about the donors diet and replicating it as well as adjusting anything necessary for the newly arrived colonies to last through time.

I don't know sh!t about it nor do I intend to sound like I do so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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I finally beat my digestive issues and chronic fatigue (physical depression) which lasted 3+ years from 2019-2021. Without getting too far into it, here's the stuff that finally worked, weighted by immediacy on a scale of 10: - 10: Eating a serving of Brussels sprouts, preferably daily - 10: Taking about 3 psyllium husk capsules occasionally with FODMAP and spicy meals - 10: Taking a digestive enzyme occasionally wit…

I can't give instructions that specific but despite my sometimes spastic post history, having a healthier diet (yogurt in the morning for "breakfast" + 2 small meals, (as in an espresso and a croissant) then a big meal in the evening + no liquid calories (booze counts) helped me drop 50lb.

Another key seemed to be avoiding artificial sugar.

Following these heuristics (not rules - strict diets encourage you to chase losses if you slip up) seemed to help more than any strict diet, though it helps with depression, not anxiety, which is mostly situational.

(This is a news site. The news is not good right now, even here, away from war and famine in the "tech world".)

Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

#145

I finally beat my digestive issues and chronic fatigue (physical depression) which lasted 3+ years from 2019-2021. Without getting too far into it, here's the stuff that finally worked, weighted by immediacy on a scale of 10: - 10: Eating a serving of Brussels sprouts, preferably daily - 10: Taking about 3 psyllium husk capsules occasionally with FODMAP and spicy meals - 10: Taking a digestive enzyme occasionally wit…

I had similar issues. I went and saw a functional medicine doctor, had a stool test and he diagnosed me with candida overgrowth. Which may be what you had. Here is the diet protocol for beating back candida, which is similar to the diet you put yourself on. https://www.thecandidadiet.com/

Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

#146

I finally beat my digestive issues and chronic fatigue (physical depression) which lasted 3+ years from 2019-2021. Without getting too far into it, here's the stuff that finally worked, weighted by immediacy on a scale of 10: - 10: Eating a serving of Brussels sprouts, preferably daily - 10: Taking about 3 psyllium husk capsules occasionally with FODMAP and spicy meals - 10: Taking a digestive enzyme occasionally wit…

I think the main things here that helped me too are probiotics and B complex (the choline) because they both support healthy bile production

Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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Garbage in, garbage out. Everybody wants a pill or supplement rather than adopting healthy eating habits.

My "chronic" acid reflux disappeared by simply doing what I already knew I should be doing: Eat fruits and vegetables. Fish > chicken > beef > pork. Don't buy snacks or sugary drinks. You aren't hungry, you're bored.

I wish doctors would treat the whole person rather than prescribing a pill. I wish my doctor told me to do these things before prescribing me omeprazole when I had an issue.

Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

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You are telling me milk kefir is the cause of health issues? I would suggest limiting it to a few spoons a few times per week, then.

How would you make that practical? How long can you keep a bottle of kefir open before it goes bad?

I have half glass of milk with kefir cultures, only, and I keep in the fridge. I use it also ad sauce, because the cultures get big and it gets concentrated and strong.

Re: Probiotics can support the effect of antidepressants

#150

I finally beat my digestive issues and chronic fatigue (physical depression) which lasted 3+ years from 2019-2021. Without getting too far into it, here's the stuff that finally worked, weighted by immediacy on a scale of 10: - 10: Eating a serving of Brussels sprouts, preferably daily - 10: Taking about 3 psyllium husk capsules occasionally with FODMAP and spicy meals - 10: Taking a digestive enzyme occasionally wit…

- 6: Taking an iodine supplement initially, a few times per week until the bottle was gone

Iodine related to hypothyroidism?

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