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Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by 0xPersona »

300bps wrote: post #102
0xPersona wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To clarify, I don't think pseudonymous work is appropriate for all types of work. I'm not a maximalist. Much of my thinking currently is about pseudonymous work in the context that I've noticed it being done, which is largely in cryptocurrency. Of course none of the people in the scenarios you mention should be able to work those jobs.

Much of my thinking currently is about pseudonymous work in the context that I've noticed it being done, which is largely in cryptocurrency. Would you want to hire a pseudonymous cryptocurrency programmer who purposely created a security flaw at his last employer and then exploited his own flaw himself to drain all of his employer’s wallets? How is that any better?

No. Which is why I would ask them to submit a resume, interview them, do reference calls, check their Github, check their social media, etc.

I would hire a pseudonymous programmer. I probably would not hire a pseudonymous programmer with zero history or reputation accrued to their pseudonymous identity.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by 0xPersona »

olalonde wrote: post #109

Might want to look at adult industry jobs, a lot of them offer remote work with minimal identity verification. Ironically, that's how I got my first development job when I was still in high school (the employer didn't know nor ask my age). It would have been a lot more difficult to get a similar job at a "regular" employer who knew my age.

Thanks for sharing! I didn't know that. That's actually very interesting.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by rootusrootus »

madrox wrote: post #97
vasco wrote: post #24

> soon most work will be done pseudonymously Eyebrow raised very high 81 days this article was discussed in HN: https://www.sofuckingagile.com/blog/mourning-loss-as-a-remot... In it, among other things, we learn a team member who was not even anonymous passed away, and the company only found out when the person's wife created a support ticket because they didn't know basic facts about them. If after reading that arti…

Soon(tm) I'm reminded of a slide show on the metric system I watched in science class in the 80s. I have a vivid memory of hearing it say "soon everything in the US will be on the metric system" with a picture of a woman standing next to a speed limit sign in mph.

Even the UK can't do it, the US never will. We implemented metric where it made sense, but forcing consumers into new units just because we think it would be cool if the whole world used the same measurements... well, that's a hard sell.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by 0xPersona »

tgv wrote: post #119
ljp_206 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be happy to start from a definition of doxxing and explain why it is not a good thing, but I am curious as to why you might not find the prospect of your address and phone number being revealed disturbing. Very boring, non-unique people get death threats all the time online. Even though the rate of online threats turning to violence against random users is demonstrably low, would you not be troubled to know y…

The first line on that page is literally "don't doxx yourself for work". You are only informing your employer of a few vital stats. The employer keeps that information private. There's no death threat involved.

Well it's not just your employer who knows your legal identity at work. It's potentially the entire organization, and more.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by cupofpython »

0xPersona wrote: post #21
soulofmischief wrote: post #3

This is a wonderful idea, but the first listing I clicked claimed being anon-friendly while also asking for a mandatory resume. I assumed these would mostly be merit-based positions, how do these two concepts harmonize? I have gotten anon roles before and they did not require a resume. Also, it would be useful to filter by part-time/full-time/contract positions.

Hey! Thank you for the kind words. Really means a lot. You raise a valid point. I suppose you could submit a resume associated with your pseudonymous identity. I have two resumes personally, one for my legal identity, and one for work that I do under my pseudonymous identity. It does present a challenge though. It's not easy to separate the two and either one alone may not provide a holistic and accurate view of you…

What's the point in hiding your name if you submit a job history which narrows the scope of your anonymity?

how do you verify the contents of said resume without having enough information to identify them?

I could just take anyone's github profile and say that it's me and you would have no idea.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by morpheuskafka »

pc86 wrote: post #103
morpheuskafka wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are required to solicit the taxpayer identification of anyone for whom you are required to file a 1099-NEC form--this is normally done on Form W-9. If the contractor fails to furnish a TIN, you are not required to cease business with them, however you will likely have to respond to the IRS and show that they refused to tell you when you file the 1099s each year. The IRS can assess a $50 civil penalty against the…

Half of what you said supports the comment you're replying to, and half of it is irrelevant.

The part about I-9 compliance directly contradicts the parent comment which stated, "any contractor . . . and must ask them to fill out an I-9 form."

The part about the 1099 reporting does agree with the parent comment, however, added some additional context about what happens if the contractor refuses and what exactly the business's responsibility is, which I thought was relevant to this discussion.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by jjice »

vasco wrote: post #24

> soon most work will be done pseudonymously Eyebrow raised very high 81 days this article was discussed in HN: https://www.sofuckingagile.com/blog/mourning-loss-as-a-remot... In it, among other things, we learn a team member who was not even anonymous passed away, and the company only found out when the person's wife created a support ticket because they didn't know basic facts about them. If after reading that arti…

I feel like HN has split crowds on this. I personally enjoy having a connection with my coworkers. I spend a lot of time in my week with them, and if I enjoy being around them, I consider that a win.

Other people want as little to do with their coworkers as possible. Not saying either of these is bad or the "right mindset", but there is a difference in preferences here.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by cs137 »

This sounds like a good thing, but I'm not sure it is.

Capital wins under the current system because the bad guys control your reputation and career, but capital will win under a pseudonymous work system too because careers will cease to exist (or, in any case, will be difficult to assemble) and the commoditization of labor will be complete.

I'm a very "out" antifascist, and I've lost jobs due to my public not-liking-fascists, so I'm sympathetic to people who'd benefit from pseudonymous work, but fiverrization is not the way forward.

The solution is to have aggressive right-to-forget, anti-blacklisting, and anti-discrimination laws, and not only to enforce them vigorously but to go forward on the presumption of employee innocence (that is, innocent until proven guilty).

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by TameAntelope »

0xPersona wrote: post #122
olalonde wrote: post #109

Might want to look at adult industry jobs, a lot of them offer remote work with minimal identity verification. Ironically, that's how I got my first development job when I was still in high school (the employer didn't know nor ask my age). It would have been a lot more difficult to get a similar job at a "regular" employer who knew my age.

Thanks for sharing! I didn't know that. That's actually very interesting.

Just FYI this will get you into a decent amount of hot water, and the company into a lot of hot water, for all kinds of labor law and IRS reasons.
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