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Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by AngeloR »

nzach wrote: post #57
xwdv wrote: post #26

It is very dangerous for a blockchain engineer to reveal their line of work.

Do you mind explaining why that is the case ? I don't know anything about blockchains so I couldn't come up with any reason for this.

I think at the moment blockchain is synonymous with "crypto".

Imagine you fell for a ponzi scheme. Now imagine you knew where the person who ran that ponzi scheme was.

The remark is a bit flippant (and feels grammatically incorrect) but the sentiment remains.

Lots of people view crypto as a get-rick-quick scheme on both sides. Even after warnings of "don't put any money in that you aren't comfortable losing" people put in money that they aren't comfortable losing. Coupled with the fact that most of these crypto projects maintain very high levels of community involvement (normally through discord/twitter). Sometimes when people lose a lot of money they lash out at the systems they lost money through. So they turn on the devs of whatever chain/token they gambled on.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by jkaplan »

It’s interesting to see all these ideas built around the idea that “more anonymity is better.”

I think the opposite is usually (not always) true, and that many of the issues we see in today’s internet stem from the fact that we have completely lost a human connection to the people on the other end of our interactions. (You can even go further and connect this to the larger loss-of-community trends across modern society.) Developing a real relationship with someone increases empathy and trust; it leads to healthier, clearer, and more productive communication; and it generally is good for everyone’s mental health and happiness.

Personally, I want a less anonymous and more communal internet (and society).

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by 0xPersona »

mellosouls wrote: post #33

I don't know generally the use case for this though I remember seeing the most brilliant person I've ever encountered (a forum long ago) enquiring if a job enabled people to work anonymously; he was very cautious with his identity. I do think it makes sense in this day and age - with pseudonymous discourse long established online - for people to be able to work anonymously within reason (constrained by accountability…

Thanks for sharing! I do think adoption could be driven by talent. I could imagine the best candidates preferring pseudonymous work, causing employers to accommodate in order to remain competitive.

I think your point about pseudonymous discourse being long established online is a good one! Most of us are already pseudonymous to some degree e.g. our usernames on Twitter, HN, Github, etc.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by happyopossum »

rgbrgb wrote: post #66
samstave wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesnt this model only appeal to the use in "one-time, short-term, mostly-illegal" constructs? "Hey Mr. RockStar Dev, I want you to make me an app to rip of [THING]" "Sure, my @wallet is here and my skillset is listed here"

I'd guess that interaction is very common and not illegal anywhere I'm aware of.

You're explicitly contracting to rip off another app, and doing so by paying under the table with no taxes paid/collected on either end, and you think that's totally legit?

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by ghaff »

pjc50 wrote: post #62
swatcoder wrote: post #8

Aren't employers in most jurisdictions required to verify work eligibility and report income? Does "pseudonymously" just mean that they these employers commit to supporting your alternative identity when engaging with the public, the way publishers might handle a pen name? Or is this something different? I'm probably not the only person who will wonder about this, so it might help to put the answer as text on the sit…

Certainly in the UK you're required to do both, and in most cases that will involve your passport or biometric residence permit. I have trouble seeing why a company would contract with a party they can't sue in the event of non-performance, unless they're a much cheaper/better option.

Even for small freelance jobs in the US, I've always had to provide a social security number to get paid. Sure, as an individual, I could pay you some amount of cash under the table but a company can't really legitimately do that.

As others have said, that doesn't mean you can't go by a "pen name" if you like assuming the company is reasonably flexible with email addresses, employee directories, etc.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by madrox »

vasco wrote: post #24

> soon most work will be done pseudonymously Eyebrow raised very high 81 days this article was discussed in HN: https://www.sofuckingagile.com/blog/mourning-loss-as-a-remot... In it, among other things, we learn a team member who was not even anonymous passed away, and the company only found out when the person's wife created a support ticket because they didn't know basic facts about them. If after reading that arti…

Soon(tm)

I'm reminded of a slide show on the metric system I watched in science class in the 80s. I have a vivid memory of hearing it say "soon everything in the US will be on the metric system" with a picture of a woman standing next to a speed limit sign in mph.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by PeterisP »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #20
swatcoder wrote: post #8

Aren't employers in most jurisdictions required to verify work eligibility and report income? Does "pseudonymously" just mean that they these employers commit to supporting your alternative identity when engaging with the public, the way publishers might handle a pen name? Or is this something different? I'm probably not the only person who will wonder about this, so it might help to put the answer as text on the sit…

I would suspect you would not be considered an employee but a contractor. I am not sure how they much they're required to report about their vendors.

It's not an arbitrary choice whether to treat a particular interaction as an employee or as a contractor - the nuances are a bit tricky, but in general it's prohibited to treat it as contracting if it isn't actual contracting but if someone is working what we'd call a standard full time job at a company.

The obvious way (mentioned elsewhere here) is that you can reasonably provide services as a business - non-anonymously, non-pseudonymously, disclosing the exact legal identity of your shell company instead of your personal details.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that shows jobs where you can work pseudonymously

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Post by lajamerr »

0xPersona wrote: post #16
dml2135 wrote: post #10

How do these companies address tax reporting requirements?

Hey! Good question. I wish I could give you a better answer but the truth is I don't know (yet). That's one of the reasons I built this. I want to learn how organizations deal with things like that, and share that knowledge so we can create best practices. I promise that soon as I know the answer, I'll circle back!

Maybe your company/service can be the middle-man. Offer varying levels of checks that are optional for the employer to require or the Contractor to fill out.

Identity as a service.

Have things like "This person is authorized to work for U.S. Companies", "This person is certified in x."

Your company would check the verification and make sure it's valid but then delete the supporting documentation or anything identifying.

Never give any of the supporting documentation to the companies, just give them access to see basically checkmarks that show they fulfill x arbritrary requirements.

But only if the applicant actually applies to the job, to prevent metadata scraping.

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