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Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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Re: Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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Post by stjohnswarts »

natly wrote: post #56
didip wrote: post #43

The government and the media keep freaking out about birth rate declining but made no attempts in fixing the poor working conditions in Japan. Who wants to date, marry, or have kids if you can barely live your life?

Even elon strangely dismissed that obvious cause when it was pointed out under his pinned tweet https://twitter.com/BillyM2k/status/1529125347148455937 (elons explanation doesn't make any sense).

Well more and more lately he has just glommed onto some popular maga/republican talking point and not thought through about how ignorant/fake they usually are.

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Post by wfhordie »

brnt wrote: post #4
t-3 wrote: post #2

Not so surprising, as someone who was recently in their 20s. Dating is old fashioned and very consumeristic/wealth oriented. I've also never been on a date, because my social strata only goes out to party, not to eat at expensive restaurants with dress codes and shit, or theaters with $20 popcorn. We have kitchens and netflix.

Does a date imply going somewhere? Most of my dates were at mine or other party's home, and we'd describe them as "dates".

Most Japanese live in cities. Japanese homes in cities are very small. Most of Japanese night life is lived outside the home.

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Post by sbf501 »

willcipriano wrote: post #76
natly wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even elon strangely dismissed that obvious cause when it was pointed out under his pinned tweet https://twitter.com/BillyM2k/status/1529125347148455937 (elons explanation doesn't make any sense).

Ideology gets in the way of truth on this one. One side doesn't want to admit that a lot of poor people have a good bit of free time available to them, particularly those who receive social services. The other side doesn't want to admit that middle class and up folks have been working long hours at a cost to their personal lives and development, that isn't new, but now both mom and dad are doing it and households are…

You get the award for most subtle attempt at rephrasing the "welfare queen" myth I've heard in a few years.

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Post by izzydata »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #68

Controversial opinion: The concept of a 'date' is an american romantic film import for a lot of other cultures. If I go back 10 years in my home country any woman would shut down your conversation if you asked her on a _one-on-one_ 'date', the implication alone would question her 'virtue'/intentions. One-on-one interaction would naturally occur as the casual hanging out with shared groups of friends or parties. I hon…

A date is a pretty vague concept. You don't need to sit down at a restaurant together and eat dinner. It could just be going on a walk and having a chat. Except in a slightly more intimate way than friends.

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Post by aquadoggy »

lolinder wrote: post #108
aquadoggy wrote: post #89

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I'm happily married with a great sex life, and neither of us had any sexual relationships before our marriage. I know that sounds quaint and antiquated on this forum, but some traditions really do exist for a reason. :-) Point being: It's not a foregone conclusion that your future wife is having sex right now. There are still people out there who wait.

Yes, I am completely onboard with this tradition. I think of it as the 'tape' analogy. If you stick tape many times, each subsequent stick is less firm. Same with relationships. You bring increasing amounts of baggage, all of your "firsts" have already been done, and you have a loose bond to your partner.

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Post by kstenerud »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #68

Controversial opinion: The concept of a 'date' is an american romantic film import for a lot of other cultures. If I go back 10 years in my home country any woman would shut down your conversation if you asked her on a _one-on-one_ 'date', the implication alone would question her 'virtue'/intentions. One-on-one interaction would naturally occur as the casual hanging out with shared groups of friends or parties. I hon…

It is a big part of Japanese culture, so the findings in the article are significant.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

yur3i__ wrote: post #25

I'm 22 and have never been on a date or anything resembling one. I'm not too worried about it, though the potential "skill gap" (for lack of a better word) with future partners does concern me a bit I have to admit.

THose skills will never come if you don't put yourself out there. It doesn't have to be a dating/hookup app like bumble/tender/etc just go to the library, get a dog and go to the park (how I met my wife), take dance lessons. It'll take a while but will happen. I was in a similar boat to you. Be honest with yourself. Shyness isn't necessarily a turn off to women (or any gender), nor is being rotund. However, if you have bad hygiene or stare at boobs a lot, break those habits.

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Post by Aunche »

francisofascii wrote: post #34

Interesting that 27.3% of women have a lover, but 19.1% of men do. Does that mean more lesbian activity or perhaps successful men taking more than one female? Any thoughts on this discrepancy?

The key part is "in their 20s." It's much more common for women to date someone older than them than vice versa.

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Post by SapporoChris »

didip wrote: post #43

The government and the media keep freaking out about birth rate declining but made no attempts in fixing the poor working conditions in Japan. Who wants to date, marry, or have kids if you can barely live your life?

I cannot find any sources where the government is freaking out. Can you provide some sources?

I did find instances of working condition reforms and incentives.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Five-things-to-know-about-Ja...

https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/Tokyo%E2%...

https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/events/pdf...

As to your question: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/birt... The current birth rate for U.S. in 2022 is 12.012 births per 1000 people https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/JPN/japan/birth-rate The current birth rate for Japan in 2022 is 7.109 births per 1000 people

I'd say the number of people who date, marry or have kids is not so different from other countries.

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Post by Joeboy »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #68

Controversial opinion: The concept of a 'date' is an american romantic film import for a lot of other cultures. If I go back 10 years in my home country any woman would shut down your conversation if you asked her on a _one-on-one_ 'date', the implication alone would question her 'virtue'/intentions. One-on-one interaction would naturally occur as the casual hanging out with shared groups of friends or parties. I hon…

I'm an old British person and "dating" does sound kind of American to me. People would "go out" together, which I guess is similar but is more like "starting a relationship" than "trying people out with a view to maybe starting a relationship". Which I don't think we really had a term for. I think "dating" in that sense only started seeming commonplace with online dating.

Of course people would do things with people they were romantically interested in, but you'd ask if they wanted to go and watch a film, not whether they wanted to go on a date.

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