Wait, in their chart, 9.11 is not counted as intentional crash? What was it then?
The hijackers had done some training as pilots, but were not the pilots of the planes themselves.
Murder-Suicides by Pilots Are Vexing Airlines as Deaths Mount
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#32I haven't looked at their source data, but their graph is extremely suspect. They list zero "intentional deaths" from 2001-2010.
I seem to remember at least 1 large aviation murder-suicide event in that time period that resulted in a huge number of intentional deaths.
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#33"Vexing" feels like the wrong adjective here. IMO, terrorism is not a "harumph" situation.
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#34Considering more and more aircraft is fly by wire and most pilots get their "air time" in sims, is there not a advantage in building a mock cockpit at the back of the airline with a backup pilot to take over when other protocols are met?
All this is doing is highlighting how one person beit the president or prime minister of a country, judge's, GP's, practically anyone including a pilot can steal some or all of other people's lives to one degree or another.
Edit. Where I am going with this, is the Space Shuttle had 4 control systems and majority rule or agreement of the 4 control systems made things happen. I dont think more than 2 cockpits would necessary.
Another left field idea, is the cock pit doors could be engineered so that if enough people all pulled on a rope firmly attached to the cock pit door like a tug of war, in order to gain access to the cockpit, then maybe the passengers have a chance. However this relies on the passengers not being deceived by the pilot which is also what is troubling the air line industry and so called psychologists. When you can work out when you are going to lose your temper in the future, let the psychologists know, they might be able to study it....
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#35>> Preliminary evidence suggests the crash of a China Eastern Airlines Corp. jet in March may be the latest such tragedy, a person familiar with the investigation said. What is the preliminary evidence? For this type of conclusion I would think the first and last bit of evidence would be the control inputs as recorded by the black box. Supporting evidence should be on the voice recording. What is this "preliminary ev…
The WSJ reported US officials saying it looked intentional based on black box data. The main alternative theory was that someone who wasn't a pilot deliberately did it.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-eastern-black-box-points-...
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#36I haven't looked at their source data, but their graph is extremely suspect. They list zero "intentional deaths" from 2001-2010. I seem to remember at least 1 large aviation murder-suicide event in that time period that resulted in a huge number of intentional deaths.
I think the point is that the Pilot in the title of that graph implies an on-shift airline pilot choosing to crash the plane intentionally, not a terrorist killing the pilot and grabbing the controls.
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#37> Fatal crashes of private, business, and corporate-executive airplanes have increased after publicized murder-suicides. The more publicity given to a murder-suicide, the more crashes occurred. The increase in plane crashes occurred primarily in states where the murder-suicides were publicized. These findings suggest that murder-suicide stories trigger subsequent murder-suicides, some of which are disguised as airpla…
As every evil act gets blasted worldwide instantaneously, one has to think that we as a culture need to put an end to publicizing the name/photo of the attacker. It's been proven enough times that it empowers others to do the same, for the fame and recognition of the "nobody".
There's already a voluntary ban on reporting suicides because of the copycat effect. That it hasn't been extended to murder-for-attention is reprehensible.
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#38I haven't looked at their source data, but their graph is extremely suspect. They list zero "intentional deaths" from 2001-2010. I seem to remember at least 1 large aviation murder-suicide event in that time period that resulted in a huge number of intentional deaths.
9/11 is excluded from the stats because it was not the pilots that caused the crashes, but the hijackers.
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#39I haven't looked at their source data, but their graph is extremely suspect. They list zero "intentional deaths" from 2001-2010. I seem to remember at least 1 large aviation murder-suicide event in that time period that resulted in a huge number of intentional deaths.
I think they only take into account intentional crashes caused by the original pilot of the plane, not by hijackings.
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#40> Fatal crashes of private, business, and corporate-executive airplanes have increased after publicized murder-suicides. The more publicity given to a murder-suicide, the more crashes occurred. The increase in plane crashes occurred primarily in states where the murder-suicides were publicized. These findings suggest that murder-suicide stories trigger subsequent murder-suicides, some of which are disguised as airpla…
I don't know what the right answer for the media outlets is here; if they didn't report on things like this, the contingent that are constantly shouting that "the main-stream media is hiding the truth from you" would get louder and have another bit of real evidence to underpin their conspiracy theories.