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Stanford’s war on social life

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zbrozek wrote: post #149

My interactions with Stanford administrators convinced me that I didn't need a graduate degree and that I would never donate to the school. Beyond that, I also got totally fed up trying to figure out how to get definitive positive permission to do anything. At one point I asked facilities if I could build an oven to cure composites. They reviewed and approved the plans. But when some other group within the school saw…

I'm confused. Why is any of this happening? What are the motivations behind the people putting up all these barriers?

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zbrozek wrote: post #149

My interactions with Stanford administrators convinced me that I didn't need a graduate degree and that I would never donate to the school. Beyond that, I also got totally fed up trying to figure out how to get definitive positive permission to do anything. At one point I asked facilities if I could build an oven to cure composites. They reviewed and approved the plans. But when some other group within the school saw…

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mensetmanusman wrote: post #35

“Stanford's new social order offers a peek into the bureaucrat's vision for America. It is a world without risk, genuine difference, or the kind of group connection that makes teenage boys want to rent bulldozers and build islands. It is a world largely without unencumbered joy; without the kind of cultural specificity that makes college, or the rest of life, particularly interesting.” This is true at MIT as well. Ca…

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insightcheck wrote: post #235
asdff wrote: post #229

I think what gets missed about greek life in general is that its just a group of students. It's not inherently more dangerous or not than any other group of college age students. In my experiences in undergrad, organizations like club rugby or even the marching band were where you seriously got hazed or had risky partying going on. Greek parties in contrast were regulated. Representatives from the interfraternity cou…

> "while turning a blind eye to the fact that most partying isn't even happening withing student orgs but just from random people throwing big parties in their off campus houses" This is overall a good argument that Greek parties aren't necessarily unsafe, but I question this reasoning. Would universities have jurisdiction to intervene in off-campus houses? If not, even if they can't stop all potentially dangerous pa…

At my university IFC did have authority off campus. You would register your off campus address with the university. Even by the early 2010s the rules were downright fascist which made them completely unproductive imo. The univesity argued any gathering of more than 3 people in a student org constituted a student org event. Therefore, a sober game of smash bros with four greek players in a single bedroom in an off campus would be considered an event worthy of registration and inspection from IFC (obviously the letter of this law would never be followed because it couldn't practically be followed nor even enforced, but served to shift liability should anything happen at the smash bros match). IFC would have hearings for incidents that would happen at places like bars all the time too (mostly underage drinking but the occasional fist fight as well).

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dgs_sgd wrote: post #46

I can see why there's a push to eliminate Greek life given all the unfortunate events associated with it. But I'm extremely confused this example: > One such case was the end of Outdoor House, an innocuous haven on the far side of campus for students who liked hiking. The official explanation from Stanford for eliminating the house was that the Outdoor theme “fell short of diversity, equity and inclusion expectations…

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hemloc_io wrote: post #33

This highlights something I feel like most older people on Hackernews, and generally don't know about modern student life! the amount of university involvement in what's going on in everyone's personal lives has increased substantially from when you were in school, much to the adulation of a portion of the student population. Unis now focus on "student welfare", which really just means expanding the universities reac…

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googlryas wrote: post #9
tomohawk wrote: post #2

Linked from the article: https://us9.campaign-archive.com/?u=c9d7a555374df02a66219b57... Details on the cancellation of the JV marching band.

Are there specific details about what the band did?

From a linked article:

> According to FoHo's sources, Band's traditions are the focus of the investigation. These include Band's annual Dollie Day, where each potential Dollie (essentially a Band dancer) is interviewed by Band (picture that for a second). Questions apparently included “What’s your favorite sex position?” and “Who in this room would you hook up with?”. Other aspects of the Investigation (obviously) focus on parties "organized alcohol consumption" and reasonably explicit "bus chants," including such choice lyrics as “a whale she wanted, harpooned she got,” and "he walked into the store, batteries he wanted, my double D’s he got.”

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tharko wrote: post #227
musicale wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stanford may have the Axe, but Cal still has student-run housing.

Cal has the axe

Yep, 2021 was the worst Big Game loss for Stanford since 2004.

No Stanford Axe, no student-run housing, and apparently no fun on the Farm. Sad.

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mathogre wrote: post #125

It is a sad, soulless world in which we live today. I went to an otherwise anonymous state college on the east coast in the latter 1970s. One of the fun things I remember was picking up lunch from McDonalds using my former roommate's Ford Pinto. If you're not familiar with the Pinto, look it up. It was a "great" car. Yeah. Driving to McDonalds was fun and exciting! This Pinto was a 4 speed manual, where the shifter c…

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andai wrote: post #148

>When Stanford could not remove a student organization for bad behavior, they found other justifications. One such case was the end of Outdoor House, an innocuous haven on the far side of campus for students who liked hiking. Stanford Daily writes: >The URGC also wrote that Outdoor House should pursue “meaningful engagement with faculty and staff in the important areas of equity and inclusion to more fully address th…

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