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None of the current messaging apps require or even support in app purchases. So the argument about paying anyone 30% is moot.
Kind of a narrow view. Not all of us who want this are building messaging apps.
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You mean making them worse?
You mean not installing yet another application and having another icon on my homescreen for every freaking website I visit? And these apps almost have no need to run any native code or do anything a website can't handle in modern day. Yes. I'm all for it. Let's make browsers more capable.
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> Note that browser push notifications also work on mobile, so you don't need to install an app to get real time alerts. Push notifications in Safari are only supported on desktop for now.
Yes, but they finally have announced support for mobile is coming. That’s the context of this link in my mind.
Does anyone know if Safari has to be open to receive the notification?
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Push notifications are useful in browsers in all the same places they are useful in mobile apps. Note that browser push notifications also work on mobile, so you don't need to install an app to get real time alerts. For example: - Sites with chat can send you messages even if you don't have the tab open (or even browser in some cases) - Online game e.g. board game or chess can push to you when it's your move. - Home…
I turn off/no to push notifications on every app that has ever asked for it, except Messaging and Calendar. Nothing else I've ever installed has warranted more than a little red notification dot on the icon.
MS Teams already gives me a lot of push notifications during my work day, and if the browsers starts to do this, I will be overwhelmed with beeping nag-notifications.
Computer clutter is a distraction and lowers productivity.
I know I'm a bit tangential, but what are some actually useful examples of push notifications for browsers? Every time I've seen them in action was with spam/clickbait, after someone accidentally subscribed and couldn't remove it.
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Every comment suggesting it brings browsers closer to feature parity with apps is a great argument against the feature. Browsers aren't operating systems. Stop trying to make them be that. It has been a terrible disaster so far, and likely will continue to be going forward, given the lingua franca of development in browsers and all the terrible development practices that have grown up around it.
The "browsers aren't operating systems" ship has sailed long ago, exhibit a: electron apps. Think of it this way. When feature parity of browser sandbox closes on everything a desktop app might want, you no longer need to build with electron but can simply ship 5-15MB of js+css and use the stock browser instead. Similar on mobile. Which will result in: Smaller downloads. Lower memory footprint. Faster launch.
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Reddit, for instance, should not be an app . It is failure on the browser's capabilities that you can't visit a reddit link without being spammed to death about installing their app. If the browser was capable of the things the reddit product team wanted to do, they wouldn't need to bug you to install their silly web wrapper app. The OS would be able to handle permissions gracefully, instead of letting the app have f…
I disagree, Reddit does well as an app (I’m of the option that HackerNews is too , that’s why in use Octal). It’s just that Reddit has a really bad app.
I know I'm a bit tangential, but what are some actually useful examples of push notifications for browsers? Every time I've seen them in action was with spam/clickbait, after someone accidentally subscribed and couldn't remove it.
Basically any situation that is some combination of in-person and online. Sure, you can build and maintain an app and then force people to install it to receive notifications. Or you can use/abuse SMS and force people to give their (highly targetable) cellphone number. But both of those alternatives cost more and are less consumer-friendly.
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You mean sending SMS as an app developer. Makes sense
Yep, once this feature is available on mobile - will increase our profit by 40% easily.
Especially with all the additional fees carriers are tacking on these days under the guise of reducing spam.