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This, but unironically.
Why?
Robots are way better and you don’t have to bring them back home.
Please, don't build another Large Hadron Collider
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That $100 billion doesn't vanish into thin air. It principally goes into plant and equipment to build the machine, as well as research into high tech manufacturing for the same. The world wide web which we are currently using was invented at CERN. You can literally go look at the proposal manuscript.
It was invented at CERN and had nothing to do with the accelerator. It would have been invented the same way in the home lab of T. Berners-Lee
true, yet big budget research institutions do have more occasional super-high-yield inventions than home labs. maybe because it was just easy for him to "beta test" it with like-minded folks.
so the solution is obvious. spend all the physics money on healthcare (or fusion power) research institutions and hope for the best.
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I thought my point was obvious. As a reminder, the original commenter stated they felt that research shouldn't be funded if there isn't a clear benefit/application. I.e. a utilitarian argument regarding research funding. I used the theory of evolution as an example of research that, at the time, had no utilitarian value, but ultimately ended up enormously important. You then countered that Darwin was, in part, trying…
Thank you for walking me through it. Been having a bad flu and doped for the pain, maybe I added less to the conversation than I thought I did! Looks like we agree on the core issue :)
No worries, I hope you feel better soon!
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Terrifying but intriguing idea. China's one-child policy led to widespread female infanticide and a generation of missing girls. What would prevent some similar unintended consequence in Europe?
> What would prevent some similar unintended consequence in Europe? We're not some fucked up dictatorship state?!?
I'm not sure what the form of government has to do with long-term, unintended consequences deriving from parents regularly choosing the characteristics of their unborn children. Would we have more or fewer: engineers, artists, short people, quirky people, homosexuals, religious people, etc?
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Europe is so rich it can easily afford all of the great project ideas outlined in the article in addition to a new LHC (and then some). Let's think big indeed, the author unfortunately has a very reductive vision for the future. Instead how about: A renaissance of funding - BIG SCIENCE - education, jobs. That was basically the promise of the EU - peace through wealth - let's create some more. Let's bring back the exc…
What's it currently doing with that money? I guess we could get rid of funding healthcare and trying to help people out of poverty so that a small number of people get to use a very expensive toy... You know what would be an awesome big science project that would immeasurably improve future people's lives? Sequencing all genes and using that data provide free embryo selection services to everyone who wants to be a pa…
Yuval Noah Harari in "Homo Deus" [1], paraphrased: once all your neighbors are selecting their embryos, and you see their children healthier, higher IQ, excelling in school, how long do you think you will hold out?
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Elaborate?
http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/09/whats-up-with-ligo.... Her claim is that there isn't enough secondary validation to truly conclude they detected gravity waves. the community disagrees and is building more detectors. The creators of the project were awarded Nobel prizes. At best, she raises some interesting questions but the narrative that the data isn't sufficient really doesn't work.
You're just pitting argument from authority against itself. The "community" is often wrong. Do you have a technical challenge to her position?