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Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Yes diskless. Then you’ll need to buy disks

Exactly. The BOM cost of a NAS with 3 2TB needs to be under $100. Even if we could somehow have 2TB 2.5" HDD for $30 BOM, three of them would have been $90.

How did you arrive at that target price? I find the Synology units to be a steal for what they offer. Its very hard to undercut this with a DIY build, best you could do is plug a USB drive into the wifi router I guess.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Do you have this in your bookmarks? Super cool you could just pull this off of your memory and have a link to it!

This is a pretty popular post to link to when it comes to feedback for a new app you're building. Another fun one is the slashdot posts when the first ipod came out.

https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-i...

> No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Why anyone would deliberately use a sync or backup provider that openly reads your data and pries into the very meat of what you store with them is beyond me. Even if it's an algorithm doing this instead of a human makes it no less disgustnig to tolerate. It's as flatly insulting that these companies think this okay and many users don't mind as having someone rifle through your personal diaries and documents in your house just because they come to do housekeeping.

Alternatives easily exist, and im not even talking about self hosting. There are plenty of zero knowledge sync and backup services and if you're really stuck on using Crapbox or Google Dreck, you can use any one of a number of encryption services for your data first, so that these bigcos can't snoop worth a shit and randomly punish you for what they find.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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This is an inevitable consequence from the push to make cloud companies responsible for the content they host. Analyzing all of it can only be automated; automation will deliver weird false positives.

EncFS is great to encrypt data in DropBox-like services.

This software had security vulnerabilities. There have been since many apps for design.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Are people still using dropbox? I thought other integrated service such as google drive and onedrive would have drove dropbox to the grave

Paid user here. The service is ok. They have a good Linux client too, which Google doesn’t.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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This is an inevitable consequence from the push to make cloud companies responsible for the content they host. Analyzing all of it can only be automated; automation will deliver weird false positives.

This chilling effect is already going on. I'm writing a science-fiction thriller and took most of my notes off Google Drive out of fear that they would misconstrue them as political extremism. If AI is being used for content moderation then this only raises the likelihood that a false positive is identified, devoid of any context, and I lose my entire Google account to an uncontactable bureaucracy. I made a Nextcloud…

If anyone doesn't want to deal with hosting Nextcloud, Cryptpad.fr is a free option and in my experience the only issue is it's a bit slow and doesn't work nearly as well on mobile devices as G Suite

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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I would recommend none of the above, I was giving OP a better way of having their stuff online. The article you referenced was getting locked out of accounts. We are speaking of having documents backed up, not google accounts. The best way period would be to periodically backup to an external HD or even SD cards. People need to get over this cloud bullshit years ago. All of these problems have been solved since the a…

The best way period would be to periodically backup to an external HD or even SD cards. and where do you store those? you really want multiple backups, and an encrypted cloud storage is one of them.

In a heavy fireproof box along with the birth certificate, and other important papers. If you want extra protection put that box in a larger safe. This really isn’t a difficult question to answer. If you are trusting a third party to store your things, when something happens to their service or they terminate your account randomly you have only yourself to blame.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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> plus their own log files covering those deletions This is the really unreasonable part. Some convoluted internal process that ends up accidentally flagging a file as suspicious and then deleting it is bad enough, but still partially understandable if you're very conservative with assigning blame. But deleting the log files? Either extreme technical incompetence or plain malice.

Our assumption: Log files of everything still existed, but were flagged "Hide & Never Admit To, per $SecretReason".

Hanlon's razor:

At dropbox's scale, guaranteed logfile durability is expensive, and retaining them indefinitely even more so.

They either got auto-deleted or they were never there in the first place.

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Our assumption: Log files of everything still existed, but were flagged "Hide & Never Admit To, per $SecretReason".

Hanlon's razor: At dropbox's scale, guaranteed logfile durability is expensive, and retaining them indefinitely even more so. They either got auto-deleted or they were never there in the first place.

I agree with Hanlon, but the size for basic audit ability is pretty small. Fileid, action, date, actorID. Maybe a bit more nice to haves. If it’s expensive store it for a couple weeks before archiving to cold storage.

Here’s another Hanlon, it wasn’t Dropbox that deleted the files it was an authorized user, OP or coworker, accidentally who forgot or wouldn’t fess up

Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation

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Isn't it pointless to discuss this without knowing more about the communications that happened?

And now the tweet has been deleted, without any updates (to my knowledge). Would be nice to find out what exactly happened.
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