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Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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The point of making the billion dollars yourself is having a say in where it gets spent, not in "giving it all away" indiscriminately. Indeed, someone else might choose to just keep their billions in the family, for the sake of obnoxious levels of luxury. I'm sure there are some billionaires exactly like that. Anyways, the whole problem with trying to become a billionaire is that it's really a lottery. Sure, someone…

>I'm sure there are some billionaires exactly like that. The Rothschild family is thought to have a net worth of a few trillion or thereabouts, so yeah. Of course, they do things with it.

Without any data to support this, I'm going to go ahead and file this in the illuminati-esque, conspiracy theory column.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #20

Billionaire-scale conspicuous consumption is certainly overrated. But Gates's own example shows how wonderfully useful and fulfilling it can be to have tens of billions of dollars to mobilize in a really heroic cause, like working to eradicate various infectious diseases from the human experience. Just to get started, as long as we don't have clean water, plenty of food, proper healthcare, good education, meaningful…

You can't have a telescope with that resolution. The data is simply not there, not in a manner that can be reconstructed with a telescope smaller than several solar systems at least.

For a "layman's explanation" of the physics, I found Phil Plait's article about the iPhone 4 (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/10/re...) really instructive. See "1) What is 'resolution', really?"

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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The problem is simply that we can't all be rich. We can all be billionaires, but we can't all be rich. The intrinsic limit comes from the fact that wealth itself is relative. Using your example, Microsoft's creation of value to such a large consumer base couldn't have happened if there had been thousands of Microsofts equally successful (e.g. not thousands of companies can have a 90% market share in the same market a…

When quality of life is taken into consideration, especially against most of human history and large portions of the world today, then I'd say most of the first world is already 'rich', we just aren't billionaires.

That's debatable, but its entirely a different point, we are talking here about "rich" at the Bill Gates scale.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #75

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Wow I can't find anything at all supporting anywhere near that. The total net worth of all the worlds billionaires is only $4.5 trillion according to forbes.

Forbes only knows about public wealth. The Rothschilds in the mid 19th century owned half the wealth of the world, and the contemporary argument is that they have not lost money since then, rather it has grown steadily, and is hidden off the books in countless family controlled foundations as well as secret reserves stashed away before there was the type of public accounting we have today. Heads of state and CEOs hav…

Y'know, I went looking for something to debunk this (rather implausible sounding) theory, so I googled "rothschild snopes". Snopes doesn't actually have anything, but I did find this rather delicious thread from the prisonplanet forums, wherein a bunch of conspiracy nuts speculate about precisely who is funding snopes:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=196892.0

Snopes most definitely is a disinfo website much like wikipedia

Anyway, I certainly can't find any evidence to support the contention that the Rothschilds are significantly wealthier than the wealthiest known people, and I don't believe it's possible to have a trillion dollars in assets while flying underneath the radar.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #101

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Forbes only knows about public wealth. The Rothschilds in the mid 19th century owned half the wealth of the world, and the contemporary argument is that they have not lost money since then, rather it has grown steadily, and is hidden off the books in countless family controlled foundations as well as secret reserves stashed away before there was the type of public accounting we have today. Heads of state and CEOs hav…

And the other half was owned by Russians (Czar) ?

Quite obviously outside of Rothschilds and Russians noone owned anything without even knowing it.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #62

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Security?

Eh. Anyone who piled up a hunk of savings and invested it in the 2000s saw it get decimated or hemimated and took a hit against happiness. Taking more vacation or a fun lower paying job might well have been higher utility. But yeah, having a savings cushion while unemployment is rampant is satisfying.

A fluffy savings cushion sounds luxurious. I want a ladder to climb out of debt and 45k a year doesn't do much towards that.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #99

"Student question. Computer science in education, starting even in elementary school. Good idea? Gates. Hmm. I think computer is a great tool, but if by computer science we mean understanding queing theory and hashing and database indexes, not sure. But knowing how to write a program, prime numbers by algorithm is very interesting test of whether I know prime numbers. What’s really necessary? Geometry? No, probably n…

I think geometry in elementary school is the idea being dissuaded, as compared to its prominence in high school today.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #114

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Forbes only knows about public wealth. The Rothschilds in the mid 19th century owned half the wealth of the world, and the contemporary argument is that they have not lost money since then, rather it has grown steadily, and is hidden off the books in countless family controlled foundations as well as secret reserves stashed away before there was the type of public accounting we have today. Heads of state and CEOs hav…

Y'know, I went looking for something to debunk this (rather implausible sounding) theory, so I googled "rothschild snopes". Snopes doesn't actually have anything, but I did find this rather delicious thread from the prisonplanet forums, wherein a bunch of conspiracy nuts speculate about precisely who is funding snopes: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=196892.0 Snopes most definitely is a disinfo website…

Why is it implausible that money doesn't just vanish over time?

I have no idea how much money they have but I don't see why it would have declined. They have always been shrewd investors.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #105

Do people really try to become billionaires? they start companies intending to become (multi-)millionaires and they do better than expected and become billionaires.

I think some people do set out with the goal in mind of becoming a billionaire and I don't think these people succeed. Like you said, I think people who do become billionaires are fixated on a more proximate goal (like starting a company that serves an important need) and end up exceeding their initial expectations.

You're right, I was working backwards from the life-stories of billionaires I've read about. There are surely a vast number that wanted to become billionaires before they were even millionaires and failed.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #14

....says the billionaire. Sorry but it's true.

Well, if a poor person would say that, you'd think that he's trying to fool himself to accept his situation. I think a billionaire knows better about that.

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I see such bad financial advice coming from those who obviously have never made money (shouldn't be surprising, I guess). And then when someone comes along who has made a lot of money, most people ignore what they have to say.

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