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Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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I find it increasingly bizarre, day by day, that people are so fixated on money and not value, or meaningfulness. There's something about the way that money is discussed on HN that I find odd, but I haven't quite put my finger on it yet. Maybe it's that there can sometimes feel like a larger emphasis on politics or money than the things people have actually created... maybe. I'm not sure. I'm still working on figurin…

> I find it increasingly bizarre, day by day, that people are so fixated on money and not value, or meaningfulness. ...or happiness. I recently read "Stumbling on Happiness" which had an interesting discussion on the fact that there are several studies that show that pay raises up to around $45k per year result in an increase in happiness. But after that, an increases in salary brings only a marginal increase in happ…

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Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #54

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> I find it increasingly bizarre, day by day, that people are so fixated on money and not value, or meaningfulness. ...or happiness. I recently read "Stumbling on Happiness" which had an interesting discussion on the fact that there are several studies that show that pay raises up to around $45k per year result in an increase in happiness. But after that, an increases in salary brings only a marginal increase in happ…

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Eh. Anyone who piled up a hunk of savings and invested it in the 2000s saw it get decimated or hemimated and took a hit against happiness. Taking more vacation or a fun lower paying job might well have been higher utility.

But yeah, having a savings cushion while unemployment is rampant is satisfying.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #44

"Many systems in society are basically poorly designed algorithms." - awesome quote

and a cute one:

Student question: Thoughts on health care reform?

Gates: I know a lot more about malaria and hash tables. I like hash tables and I dislike malaria.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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I find it increasingly bizarre, day by day, that people are so fixated on money and not value, or meaningfulness. There's something about the way that money is discussed on HN that I find odd, but I haven't quite put my finger on it yet. Maybe it's that there can sometimes feel like a larger emphasis on politics or money than the things people have actually created... maybe. I'm not sure. I'm still working on figurin…

>There's something about the way that money is discussed on HN that I find odd, but I haven't quite put my finger on it yet. I haven't frequented Slashdot in years, but this is definitely the most striking difference between it (as I remember it) an HN.

That's right, I haven't been there for years either, but money was never discussed there. Simpler times I guess. Maybe a person should go bac to see what it's like?

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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Without trying to be fatuous, this depends on what "anything you want" means.... If you want to go to the bar and have a beer, you might already be rich. If you want to go to Mars, you might never be wealthy.

Yeah, there is definitely a limit to how much you can gain which is useful to spend purely on your own confort and entertainment. When you think of worthy projects you could contribute funds to though I don't think there is any limit to the amount of money that would be useful.

An excellent point. Money and philanthropy are a deadly combo.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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Billionaire-scale conspicuous consumption is certainly overrated. But Gates's own example shows how wonderfully useful and fulfilling it can be to have tens of billions of dollars to mobilize in a really heroic cause, like working to eradicate various infectious diseases from the human experience. Just to get started, as long as we don't have clean water, plenty of food, proper healthcare, good education, meaningful…

You can't have a telescope with that resolution. The data is simply not there, not in a manner that can be reconstructed with a telescope smaller than several solar systems at least.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #25

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But Gates's own example shows how wonderfully useful and fulfilling it can be to have tens of billions of dollars to mobilize in a really heroic cause, like working to eradicate various infectious diseases from the human experience. Maybe. But it doesn't particularly make me want to be a billionaire. If the main satisfaction you get out of having $100 billion dollars is giving it all away again, I'd rather let someon…

The point of making the billion dollars yourself is having a say in where it gets spent, not in "giving it all away" indiscriminately. Indeed, someone else might choose to just keep their billions in the family, for the sake of obnoxious levels of luxury. I'm sure there are some billionaires exactly like that. Anyways, the whole problem with trying to become a billionaire is that it's really a lottery. Sure, someone…

An interesting point. Is it more interesting to do the work, or to pay for the work? I'd come down on the of doing the work, though I guess if you pay for the work, you can be present for the fun bits and absent for the hard slog (the majority).

The problem with doing is that it can be hard to make end meet while doing interesting work with long term payoffs. The options I can think of are:

1) Get an interesting job.

2) Fight tooth and nail to the top of the career/academic heap in a boring job and hope you make it to a position of being able to set your own interesting work while you still have brain cells.

3) Find an angel or patron who is prepared to pay for an interesting long shot.

4) Say hang it, and do interesting work while keeping your lifestyle within the modest remuneration you can scape together.

5) Part time work, with interesting stuff making up a full time load.

Can anyone suggest other options that might work with dependents?

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #25

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But Gates's own example shows how wonderfully useful and fulfilling it can be to have tens of billions of dollars to mobilize in a really heroic cause, like working to eradicate various infectious diseases from the human experience. Maybe. But it doesn't particularly make me want to be a billionaire. If the main satisfaction you get out of having $100 billion dollars is giving it all away again, I'd rather let someon…

The point of making the billion dollars yourself is having a say in where it gets spent, not in "giving it all away" indiscriminately. Indeed, someone else might choose to just keep their billions in the family, for the sake of obnoxious levels of luxury. I'm sure there are some billionaires exactly like that. Anyways, the whole problem with trying to become a billionaire is that it's really a lottery. Sure, someone…

>I'm sure there are some billionaires exactly like that.

The Rothschild family is thought to have a net worth of a few trillion or thereabouts, so yeah. Of course, they do things with it.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #67
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of making the billion dollars yourself is having a say in where it gets spent, not in "giving it all away" indiscriminately. Indeed, someone else might choose to just keep their billions in the family, for the sake of obnoxious levels of luxury. I'm sure there are some billionaires exactly like that. Anyways, the whole problem with trying to become a billionaire is that it's really a lottery. Sure, someone…

An interesting point. Is it more interesting to do the work, or to pay for the work? I'd come down on the of doing the work, though I guess if you pay for the work, you can be present for the fun bits and absent for the hard slog (the majority). The problem with doing is that it can be hard to make end meet while doing interesting work with long term payoffs. The options I can think of are: 1) Get an interesting job.…

Start a business that generates a passive income source, in the same vein as patio's BCC. This would obviously require a large amount of work up-front, but within 10 years you should be sorted.

I was really surprised to realise that my living costs are only about $130 per week, or $20 per day. If I could earn $20 every day, I could do whatever I want in the other 23 hours.

Re: Gates to students: Don’t try to be a billionaire, it’s overrated

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post #47

It's amazing how people forget. Bill doesn't have to worry about losing everything he has -- there's no way -- muchless worry about losing his house, getting fired in a recession, or how he's going to get his kids through college. Other than that, and the ability to go anywhere you want, do anything you want within reason, and stay as long as you like -- yeah, I'm sure being a billionaire is overrated.

To address the first items, how about taking example from a country that has high progressive taxing system. You are taken care of, even though not particularly well.
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