Never would have happened if you just used FTP like Brandon said https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
Do you have this in your bookmarks? Super cool you could just pull this off of your memory and have a link to it!
Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly this story could have happened with any big cloud provider. Ideally there would be more regulation around the ability of big tech companies to shutdown your digital life through a mindless algorithm, with close to zero recourse. Unfortunately I don’t see anything happening unless someone really powerful (say a member of Congress) gets bitten by this.
I don't think it is something that needs legislation. But it definitely needs more publicity. And if there is something that will bring down "big tech", I think that's it. "cloud providers" should be treated like something that can fail. We already don't trust hard drives, that's why we have RAID, we don't even trust RAID arrays, that's why we have backups, and we don't trust the place where backups are stored, that'…
The whole concept of ToS needs to be overhauled with vast amounts of practice that is currently considered acceptable thrown right in the fucking trash.
The idea that companies can change their ToS on a whim every day and push out walls of text that no one reads and everyone clicks through is insane. Why can't we modify the terms of agreement?
Let's start with that law, all ToS interfaces must include an interface for users to upload their own modifications and companies must have a human interpret them (not some shitty 'ai') and decide to accept them in a reasonable time frame, and if the company chooses to decline them they cannot ban the user from the service for this, the last ToS that they accepted must be the one that their interaction with the customer is conducted under. The entire process must be auditable by other by both sides and a neutral third party.
I'm sick of big companies hiding behind an opaque wall of bullshit, if this was a small town dispute between two individuals this would be transparently settled one way or another and that's exactly how it should be on the internet.
The laws haven't kept up with the times, and they haven't kept up with the creative ways people with money try to fuck over those without.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
And I bet doing that would also avoid what happened here -- account suspension for some unknown reason, but likely content related. If your content is encrypted, they can't drop you over it. Of course at that point you're not using all of dropbox's features, and some other rsync-style solution may well be cheaper.
https://rsync.net/ !
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aren't the files still on the computers that Dropbox synced to? Deleting files from Dropbox's servers, that's fine, deleting files from my computer that I uploaded to Dropbox, that's bad.
> Aren't the files still on the computers that Dropbox synced to? Not if “smart sync” is enabled on the folder. https://help.dropbox.com/installs-integrations/sync-uploads/...
Source: https://eclecticlight.co/2022/02/21/can-you-back-up-icloud-d...
Re: Dropbox deletes Rick and Morty creators account for secret TOS violation
#295That's why I bought a NAS and now have a 3-2-1 backup solution.
What do you use for keeping files synced between different machines like Dropbox/OneDrive/GDrive does?
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#296Dropbox doesn't have any functioning contact points. I cancelled my yearly subscription a month ago the day after it renewed, they cancelled my premium benefits immediately but never send the $120 refund that the cancellation page said I'd get. Tried contacting them from their website contact page, nothing. Tried tweeting at their support account, nothing. I'm half tempted to try to get my bank to do a chargeback. It…
Do the charge-back! There is no other course if you want that money back.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
A copy of your data that can be easily modified (whether through bugs, malice, or even just you mistakenly deleting a file and Dropbox happily deleting it everywhere for you) is not a backup. It’s definitely way better than nothing, but people relying on Dropbox as the only “backup” will be in for nasty surprises occasionally.
Any backup which is the lone backup isn’t a backup at all.
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not really. It’s unacceptable for Dropbox to know/inspect what content you’re storing, scan it for anything without you actively requesting they do so, and certainly to delete it. This behaviour and any terms of service that allow it should be illegal. The fact that it goes on constantly is a scandal.
Why shouldn't they be able to know/inspect/scan the content that they are physically storing? I'm genuinely curious the logic. From my perspective, they're a company providing a service and can determine the terms upon which they'll provide it. You don't have to use them if you don't like it.
Your landlord can’t just turn up and start rifling through your stuff, and the owner of your rented disk space shouldn’t be allowed to do the digital equivalent.
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#300(I've been on HN how long? I'm old.)